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    Actually, I never said I had a problem with him addressing schoolchildren, however I will say I did object to the published version's phraseology having to do with "help your President", which, in it's context, seemed to mean 'help me, Barack Obama' without acknowledging there could be any other president who would/could need whatever help a school-child could render.

    Call me touchy, but if he'd planned to say something a little less-tinged with the perception of exclusivity, I would not have had any objection.

    As to the rest, right back at you; we believe you liberals do whatever you can to avoid anything you see as expository, much as you think conservatives do, so let's call that a draw, shall we, and say your motives are no purer than anyone else's.

    BTW-

    I have never felt any compulsion to refer to B.O. as "a drooling idiot", and frankly, I don't think you can prove George Bush is one, either...so why say it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    Actually, I never said I had a problem with him addressing schoolchildren, however I will say I did object to the published version's phraseology having to do with "help your President", which, in it's context, seemed to mean 'help me, Barack Obama' without acknowledging there could be any other president who would/could need whatever help a school-child could render.

    Call me touchy, but if he'd planned to say something a little less-tinged with the perception of exclusivity, I would not have had any objection.

    As to the rest, right back at you; we believe you liberals do whatever you can to avoid anything you see as expository, much as you think conservatives do, so let's call that a draw, shall we, and say your motives are no purer than anyone else's.

    BTW-

    I have never felt any compulsion to refer to B.O. as "a drooling idiot", and frankly, I don't think you can prove George Bush is one, either...so why say it?
    If you can't prove that george Bush is an idiot, it has to be that you are one too, but then again he is an idiot.
    By the way, I Remember when they told Bush about 911, he just stayed there like an idiot,reading a kids book to kids in school, and the country was been attacked, wait he is an idiot, the poor guy can't even put a sentence together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    Actually, I never said I had a problem with him addressing schoolchildren, however I will say I did object to the published version's phraseology having to do with "help your President", which, in it's context, seemed to mean 'help me, Barack Obama' without acknowledging there could be any other president who would/could need whatever help a school-child could render.

    Call me touchy, but if he'd planned to say something a little less-tinged with the perception of exclusivity, I would not have had any objection.
    "Touchy" wouldn't be the word.
    Fact is, he is their President, much like he is your President and indeed, every American's President.
    You parse words- and intent- to no discernible effect and with no justification.

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    I have never felt any compulsion to refer to B.O. as "a drooling idiot", and frankly, I don't think you can prove George Bush is one, either...so why say it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Wikipedia
    General

    * "They misunderestimated me."[8] — Bentonville, Arkansas; November 6, 2000
    * "There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."[9] — Nashville, Tennessee; September 17, 2002
    * "Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream."[10] — LaCrosse, Wisconsin; October 18, 2000
    * "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully."[11] — Saginaw, Michigan; September 29, 2000
    * "Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country."[12] — Poplar Bluff, Missouri; September 6, 2004
    * "You know, I'm the President during this period of time, but I think when the history of this period is written, people will realize a lot of the decisions that were made on Wall Street took place over a decade or so, before I arrived in President, during I arrived in President."[13] — ABC News interview, December 1, 2008
    * "I'm going to put people in my place, so when the history of this administration is written at least there's an authoritarian voice saying exactly what happened."[14] (Announcing he will write a book about "the 12 toughest decisions" he had to make.)
    * "I want to thank you for taking time out of your day to come and witness my hanging." — At the dedication of his portrait, Austin, Texas; January 4, 2002[15]
    * "Make no mistake about it, I understand how tough it is, sir. I talk to families who die." — Washington, D.C.; December 7, 2006[16]
    * "The California crunch really is the result of not enough power-generating plants and then not enough power to power the power of generating plants." — January 14, 2001[17]

    Foreign affairs

    * "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."[18] — Washington, D.C., August 5, 2004
    * "We were trying to say something differently, but nevertheless it conveyed a different message". — January 12, 2009 Press Conference (Time Magazine, January 26, 2009, p13).
    * "Bush goes to Hel. That's what a lot of people want." — On his visit to the Hel Peninsula, Gdansk, Poland, June 8, 2007[19]
    * "Mr. Prime Minister, thank you for your introduction. Thank you for being such a fine host for the OPEC summit." — Addressing Australian Prime Minister John Howard at the APEC Summit, Sept. 7, 2007[19]

    Economics

    * "I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family."[5] — Greater Nashua, New Hampshire, January 27, 2000
    * "I understand small business growth. I was one." — New York Daily News, February 19, 2000
    * "There's no question about it. Wall Street got drunk -- that's one of the reasons I asked you to turn off the TV cameras -- it got drunk and now it's got a hangover. The question is how long will it sober up and not try to do all these fancy financial instruments." — Speaking at a private fundraiser and surreptitiously recorded by a reporter with the footage subsequently leaked on various news outlets, Houston, Texas, July 18, 2008[20]
    * "I've abandoned free market principles to save the free market system." — Washington, D.C., Dec. 16, 2008[20]

    Education

    * "Rarely is the questioned asked: Is our children learning?"[5] — Florence, South Carolina; January 11, 2000
    * "As yesterday's positive report card shows, childrens do learn when standards are high and results are measured." — On the No Child Left Behind Act, Washington, D.C.; Sept. 26, 2007[21]
    * "You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass... a literacy test."[22] — Townsend, Tennessee; February 21, 2001
    * "Then you wake up at the high school level and find out that the illiteracy level of our children are appalling." —Washington, D.C.; Jan. 23, 2004[23]
    Gee, I don't know where I could have gotten such an idea...
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    Quote Originally Posted by clocker View Post
    "Touchy" wouldn't be the word.
    Fact is, he is their President, much like he is your President and indeed, every American's President.
    You parse words- and intent- to no discernible effect and with no justification.

    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    ...
    I have never felt any compulsion to refer to B.O. as "a drooling idiot", and frankly, I don't think you can prove George Bush is one, either...so why say it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Wikipedia
    General

    * "They misunderestimated me."[8] — Bentonville, Arkansas; November 6, 2000
    * "There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."[9] — Nashville, Tennessee; September 17, 2002
    * "Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream."[10] — LaCrosse, Wisconsin; October 18, 2000
    * "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully."[11] — Saginaw, Michigan; September 29, 2000
    * "Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country."[12] — Poplar Bluff, Missouri; September 6, 2004
    * "You know, I'm the President during this period of time, but I think when the history of this period is written, people will realize a lot of the decisions that were made on Wall Street took place over a decade or so, before I arrived in President, during I arrived in President."[13] — ABC News interview, December 1, 2008
    * "I'm going to put people in my place, so when the history of this administration is written at least there's an authoritarian voice saying exactly what happened."[14] (Announcing he will write a book about "the 12 toughest decisions" he had to make.)
    * "I want to thank you for taking time out of your day to come and witness my hanging." — At the dedication of his portrait, Austin, Texas; January 4, 2002[15]
    * "Make no mistake about it, I understand how tough it is, sir. I talk to families who die." — Washington, D.C.; December 7, 2006[16]
    * "The California crunch really is the result of not enough power-generating plants and then not enough power to power the power of generating plants." — January 14, 2001[17]

    Foreign affairs

    * "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."[18] — Washington, D.C., August 5, 2004
    * "We were trying to say something differently, but nevertheless it conveyed a different message". — January 12, 2009 Press Conference (Time Magazine, January 26, 2009, p13).
    * "Bush goes to Hel. That's what a lot of people want." — On his visit to the Hel Peninsula, Gdansk, Poland, June 8, 2007[19]
    * "Mr. Prime Minister, thank you for your introduction. Thank you for being such a fine host for the OPEC summit." — Addressing Australian Prime Minister John Howard at the APEC Summit, Sept. 7, 2007[19]

    Economics

    * "I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family."[5] — Greater Nashua, New Hampshire, January 27, 2000
    * "I understand small business growth. I was one." — New York Daily News, February 19, 2000
    * "There's no question about it. Wall Street got drunk -- that's one of the reasons I asked you to turn off the TV cameras -- it got drunk and now it's got a hangover. The question is how long will it sober up and not try to do all these fancy financial instruments." — Speaking at a private fundraiser and surreptitiously recorded by a reporter with the footage subsequently leaked on various news outlets, Houston, Texas, July 18, 2008[20]
    * "I've abandoned free market principles to save the free market system." — Washington, D.C., Dec. 16, 2008[20]

    Education

    * "Rarely is the questioned asked: Is our children learning?"[5] — Florence, South Carolina; January 11, 2000
    * "As yesterday's positive report card shows, childrens do learn when standards are high and results are measured." — On the No Child Left Behind Act, Washington, D.C.; Sept. 26, 2007[21]
    * "You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass... a literacy test."[22] — Townsend, Tennessee; February 21, 2001
    * "Then you wake up at the high school level and find out that the illiteracy level of our children are appalling." —Washington, D.C.; Jan. 23, 2004[23]
    Gee, I don't know where I could have gotten such an idea...

    And he did it all without a teleprompter.

    George Bush was your drooling id- I mean 'president' as well, wasn't he?

    You've chosen to throw in with the world leader of "ah", "um" and "er".

    As to methodology, why don't you do a little "parsing of words and intent" on behalf of B.O., rather than parroting the pedestrian insults of the liberal punditry who are his surrogates?

    Defend his socialist agenda or tell us why that which history tells us is socialism is not in fact socialism merely due to a change of authorship.

    Saying it's better for no reason other than that it is different doesn't cut it; those who read this stuff are slavering for your answer.
    "Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."

    -Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post

    Defend his socialist agenda or tell us why that which history tells us is socialism is not in fact socialism merely due to a change of authorship.

    Saying it's better for no reason other than that it is different doesn't cut it; those who read this stuff are slavering for your answer.
    Nice try, Kev.
    Neither the dictionary nor history "tell" us that anything Obama stands for is "socialism".
    You and your buddies on the far right try to frame this administration as something other than embodying the higher aspirations of Americans by casually labeling them as socialists...a transparent attempt to sow fear and divisiveness.
    I ain't letting you define the rules of the game.

    Perhaps you'd like to explain exactly what you find socialist about any of the Obama proposals.

    BTW...
    The school that Obama spoke from today is my alma mater.
    Surprised it's still there...
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    Quote Originally Posted by clocker View Post
    Perhaps you'd like to explain exactly what you find socialist about any of the Obama proposals.
    Because they are the next step in the progression from the comprehensive system of social democracy which has burgeoned so bounteously since the extended reign of FDR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clocker View Post
    Perhaps you'd like to explain exactly what you find socialist about any of the Obama proposals.
    Because they are the next step in the progression from the comprehensive system of social democracy which has burgeoned so bounteously since the extended reign of FDR.
    Hmm, how odd.
    Since Roosevelt left office in 1945, Republicans have controlled the Presidency for 36 years compared to Democrats at 28 years.
    Yet you attribute all our problems to the party which has been the minority most of the time.
    How could this happen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by clocker View Post
    Since Roosevelt left office in 1945, Republicans have controlled the Presidency for 36 years compared to Democrats at 28 years.
    Yet you attribute all our problems to the party which has been the minority most of the time.
    No, I attribute all our problems to the party which has controlled the House and Senate for about 9/10s of that same time.

    Your problems getting/holding the White House may be the lingering affect of FDR's presumptive life-time appointment.
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    Damn the conservative assembleman from california, Married, totally pro family values and has two lovers on the side, and kinki, those conservatives you have to love them and their family values, they are so sincere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    No, I attribute all our problems to the party which has controlled the House and Senate for about 9/10s of that same time.

    .
    Basically, after all this time...you attribute all the nation's ills to Democrats and I to Republicans.
    I guess we really have nothing more to say.
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