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    Can anyone tell me the difference between a music cd prerecorded which you put in a cdrom and burn directly to a cdr in another drive and....... ripping that prerecorded cd to wav and then burning from the wav.

    Will one way have better quality than the other. I have heard this mentioned before, but I dont remember where and havent got a definitive answer on this... if there even is one.

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    a .wav file is lossless.
    Meaning, it has lost no audio data at all, which is why it's such a large format. If you rip a CD as .wav's, then burn them onto
    another disc as an audio CD, you have an exact replica.
    Digital media can be reproduced infinitely, with no quality loss, as long as you have the space for the uncompressed files.

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    so if I
    Rip a CD at 192kbps
    Burn it to CDR
    Rip that CDR at 192kbps
    Burn it to another CDR
    Rip that CDR at 192 kbps
    And burn the final CDR from that last rip,
    there will be no quality lost?

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    That is incorrect. Because
    Rip a CD at 192kbps 1
    Burn it to CDR 2
    Rip that CDR at 192kbps 3
    Burn it to another CDR
    Rip that CDR at 192 kbps
    And burn the final CDR from that last rip,
    there will be no quality lost?
    at part 1 it was encoded (compressed) with a lossy codec, meaning it tossed aside some sound data. When you burned the CD, at 2,
    this caused the tracks to be at a lower quality than the original.
    Then you rip that at 192 (3) which means you lose possibly even more data (may depend on whether or not you
    use the same encoder as you did at 1.)
    The best you can expect to end up with in this scenario is a CD at maybe a bitrate of 192. Probably slightly less.

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    ok I actually did this (yes wasted some CDRs)
    and the MP3s that I have now of the final rip do sound a bit...fuzzy
    I used the same encoder but it is barely noticable.

    I wouldn't consider it true 192

    and I also won't be sharing these "fuzzy" files.

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    Originally posted by Gutter@4 October 2003 - 22:40
    so if I
    Rip a CD at 192kbps
    Burn it to CDR
    Rip that CDR at 192kbps
    Burn it to another CDR
    Rip that CDR at 192 kbps
    And burn the final CDR from that last rip,
    there will be no quality lost?
    thats ripping an MP3. totally different thing. yes you would lose sound quility. but not if u did it 2 waves.

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    Nice experiment though.
    But yes, as long as it's kept in a lossless format, it's endlessly perfect.

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    Back to the main topic, which will sound better?

    A CDR burned directly from the CD
    or a CD Ripped as MP3s then burned to an audio CD format?

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    Originally posted by Gutter@5 October 2003 - 03:57
    Back to the main topic, which will sound better?

    A CDR burned directly from the CD
    or a CD Ripped as MP3s then burned to an audio CD format?
    i'd say:

    A CDR burned directly from the CD
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    is it that difficult to understand?
    any time you encode to MP3 you lose sound quality. at 320 the loss is quite minimal and unnoticable, but still
    not &#39;perfect&#39;.
    If it&#39;s ripped and LEFT as a pure .wav file, it stays exactly the same quality as the original retail cd. Even when you burn it back
    to another CDr.

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