Every tracker should have a "guest" account

**aen** · 09-14-2009, 08:49 AM

I tell you what. Sometimes it's not important that you wanna to become a part of any tracker community. It's much imortant then community needs you.
'guest' account is a typical shit. Your inviter is your friend (in the ideal situation) so your friend should know you (your interests, etc). If you get your invites from forum/trade etc ofc you wanna something like 'guest acc' btw i respect trackers privacy. So If You ask me about 'guest acc' in any tracker which I'm on, i tell you who are you and there you should go

**Rart** · 09-14-2009, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by Bad-Day

Stoi tried, but, the action itself, its like giving money to an homeless, instead off giving him a free dinner.

Respect Stoi.

Thread Closed ?

Originally Posted by jasperr

everybody always wants something for nothing.... this is a stupid thread!

Thanks for your incredible input

If you haven't noticed, I'm trying to get feedback and get a discussion going. I "respect" stoi and his decisions, BCG is personally one of my favorite trackers and I think the staff their is great. I'm just providing my thoughts on the topic. If you think my ideas are completely wrong, it would help to back up your claims.

Originally Posted by aen

I tell you what. Sometimes it's not important that you wanna to become a part of any tracker community. It's much imortant then community needs you.
'guest' account is a typical shit. Your inviter is your friend (in the ideal situation) so your friend should know you (your interests, etc). If you get your invites from forum/trade etc ofc you wanna something like 'guest acc' btw i respect trackers privacy. So If You ask me about 'guest acc' in any tracker which I'm on, i tell you who are you and there you should go

Sorry it's really hard to follow your post. But if I understood you correctly, I'm not saying that invitees from trades/invite forums want guest accounts to see whats on the tracker, I think that if those types of people actually "saw" the content on that tracker instead of just following the hype and mystery surrounding levels, they'd realize that the content wasn't as impressive as they thought (or the opposite, that the "community" is quite impressive and is what they're really looking for). This could potentially reduce the traders/invite forum people who are frantically looking for "secret" or "l33t" trackers.

I don't quite understand how you're factoring "me" into this equation either. I have no intention of wanting to join these "secret" trackers and I could really care less about their communities. FST is good enough for me. I just feel like having guest accounts could reduce collectors, traders, inactive accounts, and more for any tracker. For the reasons I listed I don't think it really compromises security at all, and I think "privacy" fits into the same realm as security, the feds aren't stupid and if they really wanted to go after your tracker, a secret login and url you can find on google isn't going to stop them.

**Bad-Day** · 09-14-2009, 08:51 PM

@Rart about the guest accs...

Who, would hand out those guest accounts ? If not the staff itself ?
But, that would not happen, simple because, most off them put, on their irc topics, " no invite requestion / or talking " something like this.

If they're not even available to that possibility, ( talk to a possible member ) why would they be, to the guest account?

The guest account, could work on trackers, who have open signups, i don´t doubt, that it would, ease some work, whit all de disabling, and deleting, etc... but on well established trackers, something like this just doesn't make sense. ( dunno if you were mentioning the guest account for this kind off trackers , i guess, that yes)

For example: Bcg, whit all due respect, what the f*** do you expect, when you ask for, or receive out off the blue, one invite to it ?

I think any normal rational, living creature, would expect to see a place filled whit games, right?

So, this is why i never understood why stoi made it... ( whit all due respect )
(imo that those who just go there, and never come back, went only for the leetness off it, " i have an acc on bcg, im gonna take a pic and frame it. )
( guest account, would never solve anything, i think. )

Anyway...
I believe, the reviews, that flood, all those invite giveaway forums, are more than enough, for one to imagine, what would be like to be member.

50% off the new users, won´t even care to use the forums, and 80% will never go to the irc, so, again, the review is enough.

PS: can i join fst ? I heard it has one off the best communities out there, and theres naked pics and all. thanks for the opportunity.

**Rart** · 09-14-2009, 09:10 PM

I guess on something like BCG it wouldn't be too necessary. That's a good point. It is for, well, games

.

But for sites like PTN, bitme, ftn, ftwr, fsc or any other tracker that has weird content (like bitme) or is "community" based (like FSC), not all people really want to join the community. They just go "zomg its rare must be good cause its lvl 10 in wtaw". If they actually looked at a guest account and see that it's serves a completely different purpose (doesn't necessarily mean its bad) than say TL or SCT, they may change their mind instead of trying to trade to get it, or collecting it than leaving it mostly inactive.

As for your other point, guest accounts could be public (or just put on the homepage of the site). Members could just tell potential invitees the details (or they might be leaked out, but as I said before I don't really think that'll compromise the tracker).

As to your "PS", whether its mocking or not, I'd much rather post at FST than in a tracker forum. I just like it better. It's more open, anyone can post in response to me, and you don't have to worry about being banned by anyone, so theres no asskissing. Just straight, to the point voicing of your deepest, darkest opinions

**Tokeman** · 09-14-2009, 09:31 PM

I see both sides. I am one of the people who invited some one to BCG, and the account was logged into a few times, but eventually pruned due to inactivity. Could a guest account have saved me from inviting this person? Maybe. But on the same token, they should have known it was all games, and knowing that, they should have used it once they got it.

I dunno, word of mouth and screen shots should be enough of a 'demo' of a tracker, more feasable then a guest account.

**Bad-Day** · 09-14-2009, 09:37 PM

@Rart

The numbers involving those places, in terms off new members per-day, month, are so little, that it doesn't justify.
( i.e the staff can handle, the manual deletion, or dis activation, easily.)

Remember this: How many minutes passed, before some fu*** went here and leaked the info about bcg guest account.

ps: No, not at all, i like to post here, there, and everywhere

Its just a tip, for the lurkers, wishing the guest account, become real.

ps: I´m still afraid off idol, he already warned me once, even cats have 7 lives, i only have 2 left out off 3.

Gezzzz

**Kelm** · 09-14-2009, 10:18 PM

I agree that guest accounts are a great feature, but the tracker admins have a right to not allow such a feature if they think it compromises the security of their site.

**Cokeman** · 09-15-2009, 12:21 AM

The only way this could work would be after every guest account got used for a time limit, the password would have to change.

So next time a user has a friend who would like to join/see how the tracker is, staff would give new password.

Thats the only way this works withou getting abused...