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    The best way to get faster downloads is simply to share.

    Some people (especially those on dialup) might think that sharing will in fact slow your downloads down. In your case this might be true.

    But look at it from this point of view.

    I'm on DSL, and I have no reason to disconnect from the Internet. I could run Kazaa 24/7 and all my 2,182 files would be available for everyone 24/7. But when people don't share with me, and all my downloads either say Searching, Connecting, More Sources Needed, or Remotely Queued, well, this means that people aren't doing their part.

    Let's face it. Kazaa takes up a lot of memory, and bandwidth, even with DSL when I'm only uploading.

    So if I'm posting on message boards, I see a drop in speed. I feel like I'm on dialup. But I suffer, because I'm downloading on Kazaa.

    Unless none of my downloads are coming in.

    At that point, I tend to pause all my downloads and exit Kazaa Lite, so I can browse the Web faster. And why not? I'm not downloading anything.

    Of course, Kazaa isn't a trade service. The people who I'm trying in vain to download from, aren't downloading from me. The people who are downloading from me may or may not be sharing. Because of Kazaa Lite's settings, I can't be sure who's sharing and who's not sharing. I realize that.

    But if I can't download, it's not efficient for me to run Kazaa all the time. So I turn it off. And those 2,182 files drop from the network.

    Though the people I'm trying to download from aren't the ones downloading from me, they may want files I have. Or they may want to download from others, who get files from me. By taking my files offline, it creates a rippling effect that affects anyone who wishes to download the types of files I'm sharing, which range from images to documents to music videos.

    Of course, when I go to sleep or work, I share regardless, because I want to contribute, whether I'm getting something in return or not. It's when I'm on the computer, and I have to decide if it's worth it.

    And it's not just me. I'm sure there are many who feel this way.

    So if you have files, do everything you can to share them. Your decision to not share a file may result in a few thousand files being taken off the network, even if for a short while.

    Broadband is getting cheaper. If you like Kazaa, you should get broadband. I was paying $60 a month for DSL 2 years ago; now it's half that. I go through SBC Yahoo. Don't like them? They have competitors. Earthlink, MSN, and AOL are just some of the providers offering DSL. Get DSL, share your files on broadband, and make Kazaa better for everyone.

    The RIAA and MPAA want to shut down Kazaa but can't. Whether Kazaa lives or dies, is determined by us the users. If everyone shared on broadband, Kazaa would be the best, downloads would be faster, and since you're sharing, other peoples' downloads are faster resulting in yours being faster. If no one shares, we're just doing our enemies a favor.

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    Yes you're truly correct , when lots of people (like 50) are sharing a music , the musci file finishes loading afte 10-15 minutes for a 56k user

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    Thanks for the reply. Sweet car in your Signature; may I ask what it is?

    Oh yeah and one thing I forgot to mention in the original post.

    Don't stop sharing because of the RIAA! If you want to stop sharing music that's one thing. I stopped sharing music. I doubt you all are gonna chip in on my settlement if I get sued - but that's OK, music isn't what I use Kazaa for anyway. It's too hard to get consistent files. As an audiophile, I listen to music on my computer and require that all my music is ripped from CD on my system or on a system overseen by me, so I can guarantee the quality. Sometimes I will use Kazaa to check out a song or two but I don't download full albums.

    The MPAA is not suing anyone (yet) for sharing movies. Likewise, video game companies, software companies, book authors, graphic artists, Anime companies, etc., are not suing people for sharing their stuff. Therefore, if you have copyrighted files other than music, you can (at this point) share them without fear of someone coming after you.

    Speaking on the topic of multiple users, one thing that sucks ass about Kazaa is 90% of its users are behind 56K or slower. At least, I download from 90% dialup people. Right now I'm downloading from someone on a freakin' 28.8K connection. Or at least, someone with 28.8K speed. I know you can toggle the upload bandwidth to make yourself seem like a modem user. Anyway the point is, I tell people, if you download from 1 56K user, and you're on DSL, it'll only come in as fast as they send it... BUT if 10 people on 56K are sharing it, 56K = 7KB/sec x 10 = 70KB/sec peak. Not bad at all. And then you the DSL user get it, and you've just doubled the peak for the next guy to get it.

    I only let 3 files go at a time, so people can get reasonable speeds. DSL upload and download aren't the same... upload is only 2-3 times 56K, BUT a DSL user can upload full bandwidth and download full bandwidth, and that's around 200KB/sec. It's pretty nice. I did the math and figure if all 3 users max out my upload bandwidth (set to Unlimited BTW) then I'm letting something like 2GB go per night. Not bad. And in reality I download far less than I upload, because of those times where nothing is downloading and yet I'm always uploading.

    In fact right now I have 4 files with no sources. I was going to tell you one was downloading at about 1.59KB/sec or something like that, but that person signed off between the last time I checked (not too long ago) and just now..... and now one file is coming in at 4.08KB/sec.

    Look people bottom line. In not having central servers, Kazaa SUCKS. Bottom line. You can't deny it. Kazaa has a lot of weaknesses. BUT we can make it better by sharing and making sure as many files are available as possible, that way people cand download from you, and later, people can download from them. And then Kazaa's weaknesses will be pretty trivial.

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    Originally posted by DarkReality@6 October 2003 - 07:35
    At that point, I tend to pause all my downloads and exit Kazaa Lite, so I can browse the Web faster. And why not? I'm not downloading anything.
    Did you remember to lower the max uploads and upload bandwidth max in KL++ to something that doesn't overload your connection?
    It could even be causing some of your download problems.
    After all, not everyone has unlimited upload bandwidth...

    I have about 29 KB/sec max useable in KL++.
    How much do you have?

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    Originally posted by DarkReality@6 October 2003 - 21:08
    Thanks for the reply. Sweet car in your Signature; may I ask what it is?

    Its a viper concept

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    Cool.

    Switeck - Just saw your post.

    I have ADSL, 128K upload and whatever it comes out to, I can download at up to 185-200KB/sec, but I've only done that from servers like Akamai or whatever it's called that works with Quicktime/Apple.

    I have 3 upload slots and it's on unlimited. Are you suggesting that perhaps Kazaa is trying to upload at more than I can, and thus is causing problems?

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    Originally posted by DarkReality@7 October 2003 - 03:45
    Cool.

    Switeck - Just saw your post.

    I have ADSL, 128K upload and whatever it comes out to, I can download at up to 185-200KB/sec, but I've only done that from servers like Akamai or whatever it's called that works with Quicktime/Apple.

    I have 3 upload slots and it's on unlimited. Are you suggesting that perhaps Kazaa is trying to upload at more than I can, and thus is causing problems?
    Correct -- when you exceed your max upload bandwidth according to ISP limitations (the ADSL *CAN* easily beat 128 kilobits/sec upload too&#33, the ISP forces limiters on the connection.

    What this means is 1 second of overload is followed by 1 or MORE seconds of the ISP randomly destroying data packets FROM and TO your connection. It's mostly FROM your connection that they lose because it costs them more to send out data across the internet (they pay by the MB even&#33 than to receive.

    If you re-run KL++'s setup wizard, you can find an upload bandwidth limit that'll put uploads to between 12-14 KB/sec (that's 96 to 112 kilobits/sec -- both less than your 128 kilobits/sec max.)

    Then, you can actually be uploading a little faster and downloading a LOT faster while uploading constantly.

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    LOL in my books to get faster dl speeds you dont share so your bandwidth does not get used up and the bandiwidth which would be used for uploaders would be used to get the extra faster dl speed. thing is on emule you have to share but thats ok since im on a 2meg connection and i dont notice a difference traffic

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    Originally posted by chinook_apache@7 October 2003 - 15:39
    LOL in my books to get faster dl speeds you dont share so your bandwidth does not get used up and the bandiwidth which would be used for uploaders would be used to get the extra faster dl speed. thing is on emule you have to share but thats ok since im on a 2meg connection and i dont notice a difference traffic
    But if everyone did that, we'd all download very slow indeed!

    It's mainly when either upload OR download bandwidth is maxed that the other 'side' suffers.

    So the trick is to find a 'happy balance' where you still get greater than 80% max download speed (at least POTENTIALLY, considering how hard it is to fill up even a 1meg connection on KL++) -- and then leave it at that.

    Or just set uploads to 1/2 your total upload bandwidth. Even ADSL lines with shared bandwidth (their RF frequency spectrum can designate different parts either upload OR download but not both) aren't hurt too much by that.

    Most broadband connections upload and download bandwidth use do not interfere with each other nearly as bad as in the past -- it's just p2p program with poor pipelining that causes issues.

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    Thanks for the reply Switeck. I just went into the Kazaa Lite K++ folder, found the Config Wizard, and set it up. It set my upload bit to 88 - 11kb/sec. Hopefully this helps.

    Of course, I think a lot of my downloading problem is in finding sources. B)

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