Did Obama deserve the Nobel Peace prize?

**j2k4** · 10-27-2009, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by clocker

Originally Posted by Speedo

Doesn't matter.

It's Obamas wars now. Even Nixon did more to end wars than him.

Originally Posted by j2k4

Oh, but we're not allowed to use historical perspective to denigrate liberals, don't you know.

Especially Nixon - it's just not done.

Oh Kev, of course you're allowed to use "historical perspective" but it'd be nice if you used the history of this planet and not the fantasy world so beloved of the right these days.
Elected in 1968, Nixon didn't end the Vietnam war until 1973.

So let's see...
Obama has been in office less than a year and hasn't gotten us out of Iraq/Afghanistan yet.
It took five years for Nixon to get out of Vietnam (although to be fair, he was busy breaking domestic laws for the latter half of that period).

And Nixon is more of a peacemaker than Obama?

Even us hippy-dippy liberals don't take as much LSD as you guys appear to.

I don't believe I was the one who made the comparison, sir.

**clocker** · 10-27-2009, 10:42 PM

You're right.
You just encouraged it.

**j2k4** · 10-28-2009, 01:07 AM

Originally Posted by clocker

You're right.
You just encouraged it.

The usage and study of history?

I certainly hope so.

Btw-

How would one go about determining whose version of "history" (yours or mine) was correct?

As an aside, out of a pure and abiding interest, I would appreciate hearing your capsule characterization of Nixon and his presidency...as one who was there, so to speak.

**clocker** · 10-28-2009, 12:38 PM

Is there question about when Nixon took office and when the Vietnam accords were signed?
Do my dates not jibe with yours?

**Speedo** · 10-28-2009, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by j2k4

Originally Posted by Speedo

Doesn't matter.

It's Obamas wars now. Even Nixon did more to end wars than him.

Oh, but we're not allowed to use historical perspective to denigrate liberals, don't you know.

Especially Nixon - it's just not done.

I'm not saying that Nixon did no wrong. But I'm saying Obama has done no good, yet. He was elected to end the wars and didn't. And frankly, I lost all respect for the man the day he decided not to support impeachment against the previous administration.

Liberals who do nothing can be far more dangerous than republicans with a corporate agenda.

Road to hell is paved with good intentions.