Please?

[Hombre]

I always try not get involved in drama, and i'm very new to this stuff, so i dont see why people wud believe what i've to say, but i've a text log with a member of fst and tps admitting he did it and who he talked to to blame it on cabalo's ass. it's very disgusting to read, but enuff detailed to unmask who did it. as i dont want to break some1's confidence on me, i wud never post it here or hand via pm the chat. but i'm very allowed to say that who believes he "broke" a site's rules, is a newb and eats all the shit he is thrown at. i know 4 sure he didnt do it, and who did. and if u bumrocks believed that, u are no better. As for hunting traders here, i dont think u shud have disabled privs, u should have a disabled acc. staff here are too friendly with u after what u did, and u are no asset to this forum, only a liability. go back to listening lies of some "friends" u think u have.

[pffm]

Hombre, your forum signature is bugging me, it's really annoying. On the other hand, I did like sub-zero... I knew all the moves and tricks.

bumrocks seems like a decent guy, I can't say that I know him that well but he got my "Yes" on the poll.

[bumrocks]

I always try not get involved in drama, and i'm very new to this stuff, so i dont see why people wud believe what i've to say, but i've a text log with a member of fst and tps admitting he did it and who he talked to to blame it on cabalo's ass. it's very disgusting to read, but enuff detailed to unmask who did it...

I can only make judgments on what I have seen myself...If you don't share the info or proof then your post is useless...

...To be honest, I probably would have respected you better if you had just said that you had hunted traders in an attempt to climb your way up the BT ladder. At least in that regard you had a specific and ulterior purpose in mind when you were deceiving other users. You had mentioned that you had already acquired all your "dream trackers" before hunting traders and that because of that, you were simply only doing it for the pleasure of catching traders...

Actually I said...

It is not something I do/did all the time. When I had free time (it has been 2 months since I have captured anyone's IP). When I was particularly irritated with traders (bold, brazen, and stupid ones). I was already in the trackers people "dream" about and therefore had nothing to personally gain. Which was in part why I chose to do so...It irritates me to no end people who cheat their way in to sites I belong to. I earned trust, made friends, and was pleasently surprised via email or PM...Why can't they? I have made many friends in this forum and others and have always tried to give a helping hand when able and possible.

Here comes a brutally honest answer as well...I take some personal satisfaction beating them in their "cat and mouse" game of trading. They have no issue causing probs (yes, I am generalizing) at trackers and I therefore have no issue in causing probs for them...

[Bad-Day]

The things you guys were doing, whille i was shagging my girlfriend. wow! seriously, theres ppl outside.

"I WAS A MEMBER OF LEVEL 9 AND 8 SITES LONG BEFORE I ever caught, chased, or reported the first trader."

No level 10 ? thats why u started to chase ? caught ? report ?

Did u get that level 10 ? and then retired, and than comeback to fst ?

I voted i don´t care.

[Rart]

...To be honest, I probably would have respected you better if you had just said that you had hunted traders in an attempt to climb your way up the BT ladder. At least in that regard you had a specific and ulterior purpose in mind when you were deceiving other users. You had mentioned that you had already acquired all your "dream trackers" before hunting traders and that because of that, you were simply only doing it for the pleasure of catching traders...

Actually I said...

It is not something I do/did all the time. When I had free time (it has been 2 months since I have captured anyone's IP). When I was particularly irritated with traders (bold, brazen, and stupid ones). I was already in the trackers people "dream" about and therefore had nothing to personally gain. Which was in part why I chose to do so...It irritates me to no end people who cheat their way in to sites I belong to. I earned trust, made friends, and was pleasently surprised via email or PM...Why can't they? I have made many friends in this forum and others and have always tried to give a helping hand when able and possible.

Here comes a brutally honest answer as well...I take some personal satisfaction beating them in their "cat and mouse" game of trading. They have no issue causing probs (yes, I am generalizing) at trackers and I therefore have no issue in causing probs for them...

I don't see how that changes the validity of my post at all. Care to elaborate/respond to the rest of my post?

[deadalive1]

I voted yes, I don't care that you were hunting traders, the fact that they were trying to trade means they got what they deserved. All the traders will vote no (for the most part), they only think of themselves, they don't think about anything but the "next" rush from trying to get into the next uber-1337 site.

I could care what anyone thinks of that statement or whether FST condones trading or not. If you are out of it now bumrocks that is fine as well. What your motives are/were or even if there were any at all, doesn't matter to me.

Glad to see you have your privileges back, take care and don't be a stranger.

[BobFromAccounting]

Forgive and forget. Besides, if he didn't do it, someone else would have. Rather than just change his IP and make a new account he asked for forgiveness and I believe he deserves it. You may be thinking to yourselves that the traders he got banned never had a second chance, but it isn't hard to figure out that they will find there way back into the tracker that doesn't want them one way or another, and at least find solace in the face that although bumrocks has the means to circumvent this he doesn't and is upfront about it. Maybe if those traders truly regretted their actions and changed for the better they would be given a second chance as well, maybe they wouldn't, but it's not like bumrocks has a whole lot to gain from having his privileges re-enabled.

Anyways, that's my opinion...

[1000possibleclaws]

Forgive and forget. Besides, if he didn't do it, someone else would have. Rather than just change his IP and make a new account he asked for forgiveness and I believe he deserves it. You may be thinking to yourselves that the traders he got banned never had a second chance, but it isn't hard to figure out that they will find there way back into the tracker that doesn't want them one way or another, and at least find solace in the face that although bumrocks has the means to circumvent this he doesn't and is upfront about it. Maybe if those traders truly regretted their actions and changed for the better they would be given a second chance as well, maybe they wouldn't, but it's not like bumrocks has a whole lot to gain from having his privileges re-enabled.

Anyways, that's my opinion...

If he has his privs re-instated he could use pms to continue sending links to traders, to get their ip addresses. I don't see why he needs pm's back to keep posting. Dunson was fine with his dp, he kept posting his opinions regardless.

I mean if Bumrocks was active while he was DP'ed then maybe I can see why he thinks its time to have them removed. But nothing is stopping him from participating here as is.

[Night0wl]

In my mind people can be bad, but there is no worse type of character than the mole, rat, narc, spy or otherwise deceptionist.

[deadalive1]

In my mind people can be bad, but there is no worse type of character than the mole, rat, narc, spy or otherwise deceptionist.

A trader uses deception as well, after all they are NOT on a tracker using THEIR account but the person who they traded with to get on said tracker. It's funny how some see it one way and use it to defend when it equally applies the other way too.