Are you mad at the Snitch??

[megabyteme]

I'm a little confused, maybe what you said appears to be off topic... does this mean you are against file sharing?

I download other people's work all the time to watch movies etc and to save my own pocket?

Doesn't anyone else do this too? Maybe I'm reading your post wrong, and if so, I apologise...

I'm just pointing out that he's a hypocrite.

Wow! You really don't want people to see you for what you are, do you? You desperately need others to tell you that what you are is OK.

And you might from time to time. The world has no shortage of cowards. You tend to find others that will group around you, and they have similar shortcomings...kinda like...what's that word?...Oh, yeah. RATS!!!

Edit- How is it that you think all acts have equal moral value? Is downloading a song or a movie anywhere nearly as caustic as sending someone else to jail for a crime that you have committed? It's not even close.

You have already stated that you do not understand my writing, but perhaps you can have an adult sit down with you at bedtime and he/she can read you some of my other posts. Go back far enough and you will find my defense for the sharing of information. As someone else pointed out, it is a victimless crime. Actually, more of a misdemeanor.

But that is really just a weak attempt at misdirection.

As for having someone else serve your jail time- that is a whole different level. One of cowardice and immaturity.

[Benjamin]

In my personal experience, I have found myself in that situation when I was younger. Instead of ratting out the people the police wanted me to rat out, I TOOK RESPONSIBILITY FOR MY OWN ACTIONS. I did a healthy bit of county jail time in fact and about 10x what they offered me for a plea bargain. I thank the stars I got that out of the way when I was young enough to escape prison time.

To each his own, if they were asking you to snitch out someone you didn't care about, I will never understand that.

I will give you props for admitting to yourself that you lack the moral fiber to own up to your own mistakes, but as we are not talking about family matters, but criminal matters

I was talking about criminal matters when I mentioned my friends/family, I would never snitch on them.

It is quite presumptuous though to presume that the vast majority that you imply would also just as freely and without thought snitch on someone else to save their own ass.

If you take away the 'fear of retaliation' part, most people would. I'm not trying to presume anything, it's happening every day.

It is the ultimate betrayal and abhorrent in virtually every culture. You have to wonder why that is don't you?

That way of thinking was started by criminals who wanted to make it harder for police to catch them.

Wow! You really don't want people to see you for what you are, do you? You desperately need others to tell you that what you are is OK.

And you might from time to time. The world has no shortage of cowards. You tend to find others that will group around you, and they have similar shortcomings...kinda like...what's that word?...Oh, yeah. RATS!!!

You can continue with the name calling, it really doesn't help your argument.

Edit- How is it that you think all acts have equal moral value? Is downloading a song or a movie anywhere nearly as caustic as sending someone else to jail for a crime that you have committed? It's not even close.

If you want to talk morals, you have to be congruent with yourself. The different moral value is irrelevant.

You have already stated that you do not understand my writing, but perhaps you can have an adult sit down with you at bedtime and he/she can read you some of my other posts. Go back far enough and you will find my defense for the sharing of information. As someone else pointed out, it is a victimless crime. Actually, more of a misdemeanor.

Several people on this forum have caught on to your posts and called you "slow" or "dumb" in the past, it's not just me. Think that through.

But that is really just a weak attempt at misdirection.

It wasn't misdirection, it is completely relevant to the topic.

As for having someone else serve your jail time- that is a whole different level. One of cowardice and immaturity.

If someone snitches another person out to the police, that person will do their own jail time for their own crime. Cowardice involves fear, if someone doesn't feel like spending years of their life in a prison cell, I wouldn't call that fear. As for immaturity, let's put that one under the long list you have of nonsense.
I can say some people who don't snitch are cowards though, and it's very true.

[megabyteme]

Benjamin, you sound like a 19 year old. What is your age?

You also come across as a loud mouth with no real education to back up your "arguments". Please enlighten us on your formal education.

As for your ability to understand my arguments- I converse with PhDs weekly. They have no difficulty understanding me in person or in my papers. Neither do the other graduate students I come across. I think the difficulties are on your end.

Edit- Where are you going with your "argument", BTW? I seriously doubt I will talk you into finding reasons to not fuck people over and you are not going to successfully talk me into being a scumbag.

I call you names because you make my skin crawl. There really is no reason to be civil to you.

I already said I wouldn't have anything to do with you IRL. Why would I want to continue to talking to you here?

[Benjamin]

Age and education are irrelevant, and I think it's an absolute joke that you think "conversing with PhDs weekly" is something. You can stop responding to my posts anytime you want, but it will be because you have nothing of value to say.

[megabyteme]

Age and education are irrelevant, and I think it's an absolute joke that you think "conversing with PhDs weekly" is something. You can stop responding to my posts anytime you want, but it will be because you have nothing of value to say.

I just wanted to capture this.

As for your argument (whatever it is) is pointless. You have identified yourself as a low-life, turn on anyone (who is not a "friend") to save your own ass, cops' bitch.

It would be impossible for anyone to defeat you any more than that.

[Benjamin]

Age and education are irrelevant, and I think it's an absolute joke that you think "conversing with PhDs weekly" is something. You can stop responding to my posts anytime you want, but it will be because you have nothing of value to say.

I just wanted to capture this.

As for your argument (whatever it is) is pointless. You have identified yourself as a low-life, turn on anyone (who is not a "friend") to save your own ass, cops' bitch.

It would be impossible for anyone to defeat you any more than that.

You have proved to be a very intelligent person. [/sarcasm]

[megabyteme]

You have proved proven to be a very intelligent person.

Why thanks, Benny. I still think you are a punk bitch.

In all seriousness, my inability to make you into a decent human being should not reflect on me. I did what I could, but I am sure someone will eventually get screwed over by you. I wish them all the best in their vengeance.

[sez]

lol at the drama
In all Honesty I think benjamin does have a point(aside from the theatrics).I don't think that he is implying that he'd rat on people nicknames (useless information without IPs and RL details) just for the heck of it or to save his own ass for that matter.

There haven't been that many P2P busts but from the few that have been there,its clear that people do indeed talk(I mean lets be real here),take OiNK for example,I think almost all the staffers eventually got arrested but as of now,none of them is in for anything serious.Some sole ranger on the other hand just got fined ~$2 million for some 24 low quality 128kbps mp3s.
Don't ask me how but there is just something about number and co-operation.

Look at the scene as well,the moment a group gets busted,it doesn't matter how gangsta it was or how long its been around but within hours,BNCs get changed.I dunno if that's taking care of each other but I like to think its so(i.e you are at liberty to co-operate if you want).

Look at RNS as well,I think all of them got arrested(co-operation and talking) and if recall correctly they supplied over 25,000 album copies over the years yet you hear that none of them is going to get anything past 5 years nor fines exceeding 250 grand.Now imagine if someone got indicted in such a mass piracy case and refused to talk,how do y'all think family or a RL jury would receive him/her?

Why do a quarter century yet you have an option to distribute it around such that each person does 5years?
That's much more logical and kinda has that brotherhood gangsta touch as well .

[Benjamin]

I mean lets be real here

megabyteme doesn't seem to understand that concept.

[chalice]

megabyteme, don't you consider your full-on tedious assault upon Benjamin to be somewhat pointless, given that every word posted in this thread falls firmly into the cantons of hypotheticals?

You're lynching him upon things he's never done and likely never will.

Perhaps you're too consumed with your philosophy papers to clearly see straight.