STN goes P2L

[chec]

Cabalo

Scene shits means, what are they offering extra, there are billions of scene tracker

[Rart]

Archive Axx what's that? Easy breezy. On some of our topsites, we have a small archive of around 40TB of old releases. As a bonus, we include access to those at the higher levels.

Please keep in mind that there are a limited number of "slots" available on any given month. So if 0day, never been stepped on warez from the scene are what you want. Come get some!.

All Topsites are Gigabit, you can reach speeds in excess of 100MB/s
You get 4 simultaneous logins.

FTP Access?

And for 500 euros, you get "unlimited transfer"!

Also, curious as to what you guys think of this...

I started this as a different topic because people have strong opinions about it.

There is no getting around a few things.

Any tracker that is currently running, is doing 1 of two things from a "LEGAL" standpoint.
A. Conspiring to distribute copyrighted material (I.E. Theft)
or
B. Facilitating the distribution of stolen/pirated programs.

Without blowing my entire load as to my professional opinion and potential legal defense in the future. (My dad was a federal judge before he died, my sister is an attorney, my wife is an attorney, and I have more family members if various parts of the legal system than I care to count.)

By moving to a sponsorship model, it does something else besides making the playing field equal for all the participants. It also, makes it nearly impossible for any "new" sponsor to do anything legally to the tracker.
It prevents any OLD sponsor from moving forward with any "old" information, as there is no continuance of a crime.

I'll address some of the concerns from the other thread:

[bringing additional light, heat, etc onto the tracker because it is accepting sponsors.]

1. Security by obscurity is retarded at best, as much as BCG, GFT and the likes think they are safe, they are sadly mistaken.
2. Super Elite trackers get busted all the time. Just look at what happened to UK-T. Hardly anyone had access, they had very little users. and Next to no publicity.
3. Being large, or small, donation, no donation. If you get on someone's radar, game over. There is no way to prevent it, no way to reduce it
4. The minute the site has a seedbox, they themselves are distributing the stolen material.

[Sponsoring, donation, is morally against my fabric, wrong, etc].
I'll say it again, all P2P trackers are pay to leech. Period.
All P2P are breaking the law period. (I am unaware of any p2p tracker soly distributing legal content)
Everyone downloading from a tracker is breaking the law. (Some countries have no laws like mine, so you may be exempt locally, but the US,AU,EU have all been known to have a long reach).
Sorry if theses things offend you but it is the truth.
Downloading software whether you intend to use it or not via p2p, is breaking the law.
By allowing people to sponsor to stay, we've given STN one of the most legal footings possible, years ahead of other trackers.
It might surprise to know:
SCT brings in > E3,500 per month in "donations" invites, topsite axx etc.
SCC brings in > E3,000 per month
GFT brings in > E800 per month
And those figures are just what "I" personally know about.

I'm on over 1,200 trackers as of friday. From GREEK and RUSSIAN p2l that are clearly profit driven, to small niche trackers that don't take donations, run as a hobby, user provided content. No 1 tracker can please everyone, no 1 tracker can be the best. After all it is an opinion. FWIW my favorite Trackers right now are, ArabicFilms, CartoonChoas, SpiritTracker, and Cat Torrent (Bitgamer, UG, RevTT, and ScienceHD are in my top 10).

[Paypal, Privacy, Micropayment Solutions]
Paypal is fairly liberal with their required documentation. They don't check CC names, or anything, just the CC # and the paypal verification code to activate the account.
All other micropayment forms, require a lot of paperwork from the site owner.
While my country and the countries I travel too are exempt from IP laws. I have an asston of personal assets to protect. I'm not about to fax my passport, cedula, etc to 3rd parties to accept payment. It is an additional risk. One in which the risk to accept maybe 4-5 E3.00 payments is way greater than the reward. Not to mention the risk it puts ALL users at.
Sponsoring a site, is not an indication of guilt, having non purchased downloaded material on your computer is a crime, PERIOD. regardless if you made a sponsorship, donation etc.

[Duckater]

So if every member is a sponsor of the site does this not make them more legally resposible for the trcker there for part owners hence then not just considered they are getting pirated material but also part the the structure that supplies the material and therefore equally resposible for all conent avaliable?

If so then that makes the risk being a member/sponsor of the site even less appealing than being told to be there you have to sponsor.

Either way a controlled p2l where other sites mentioned are voluntry contributions.

[kooltilldend]

pay money, spread risk, make the owner/admin rich

this is a surefire hit scheme

[Patriot foreve]

i think they should change the slogan of the tracker to (help me to be a millionaire)or something ,the site staff have played it smart honestly ,they invested alot of money to make the tracker one of the fastest and their torrent count with regard to the tracker being online was pretty impressive and now they are going to get that money back 10x and who knows what will happen after or if they will disappear

for now it's still 100 members of 6500 members who have paid their 3 Euros ,i don't really support any tracker who forces their members to pay money and i hope it doesn't become a trend .also there are hundreds of great trackers around so whose gonna care about one going P2L

[TrollinThunder]

My new site, Sellthe.net only charges 1 Euro per month if you sign up for a year.

[Rart]

My new site, Sellthe.net only charges 1 Euro per month if you sign up for a year.

Storethe.net is .5 euros per month, beat that.

[TrollinThunder]

Subtle.net. Read that.

[kooltilldend]

My new site, Sellthe.net only charges 1 Euro per month if you sign up for a year.

Storethe.net is .5 euros per month, beat that.

not true...STN's cost per month / per person depends on the number of users that are willing to be scammed

[RizKhan25000]

They had good donation contributions in start but when they began to introduce one after another P2L factor like pay for this , pay for that, their donations dried up rather quickly in the months to follow. Hard negative response against such sites is the best way to prevent such practices in the future.