If they are albe to get those 1700 sponsorship slots filled, then what should we expect?every tracker doing the same?
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If they are albe to get those 1700 sponsorship slots filled, then what should we expect?every tracker doing the same?
Their staff made a somewhat good argument. I don't fully agree with them. What do you guys think?
From STN staff:
There is not a single site that is bit-torrent (p2p) that is not p2l
Here is my logic.
Sites that sell donations (SCT, etc) are p2l
Sites that have ads are p2l
Sites that you click on anything or are forced to view something are p2l
sites that are ratio based are p2l (as you pay with your bw that costs you something).
So there are NO sites that are p2p that aren't p2l, because p2p is inherently p2l.
Ratio Free trackers, are a bit different, no one is forced to use any bandwidth, you can just seed for the minimum period. It can be at 1k/s across all torrents. (which is throttling, and some sites duh, just figured out now that people are throttling).
I had two options. Stop accepting donations, and just run the site for myself and if people want to be here fine (but no suggestions, no help, no comments), it's just here, or b. let a few people donate here and there. It didn't feel right letting some people donate, and then others just leech, bitch, moan, complain, and basically drag the site down.
So if you find value in the site. Sponsor it, if you don't, then move along.
Last edited by nethawk; 11-13-2009 at 07:14 PM.
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I think that is a load of crap. I can DEFINITELY think of one (probably more) site thatr doesnt do anyone of those.
And this "sites that are ratio based are p2l (as you pay with your bw that costs you something)." made me lol tbh. But like I said there are definitely trackers that dont do any of those things. Even if their list wasnt a load of crap (imo of course).
Oh wait... I suppose that when I browse a site it costs me time also so maybe they ARE all P2L!
edit: this does make sense though: "So if you find value in the site. Sponsor it, if you don't, then move along." Which I have a feeling they will find people will do.
2nd edit: their terms and conditions is a freakin gold mine. It seriously looks like it was written by some teenage tweeker or something.I was gonna copy and paste some here, but it would have been a book. I cant even force myself to get through all of it, but im sure there is some CLASSIC stuff in there. Just one part that I thought was funny is "AND MAY INTERRUPT OR DISCONTINUE OFFERING THIS WEBSITE IN WHOLE OR PART AT ANY TIME WITHOUT NOTICE. " I wonder where they are going?
Maybe I should not have copied and pasted that... because "All contents on this website, both textual and graphic, including but not limited to computer code and images, and all e-mail or other messages or correspondence from **** are the property of ***** are copyrighted, and may not be reproduced or published without permission." But i think Im fine because I didnt agree right?
I usually wont bash trackers, and definitely not in public. But seriously what a joke.
Last edited by That1Guy; 11-13-2009 at 08:21 PM.
DO NOT PM me 4 invites thanks
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Forced donations are different than other sites giving upload credit for money, except vizz. No other sites force donatations!You get kicked off if you don't donate, that is desperate and shady. Would NOT join STN or whatever other site!
Originally Posted by nethawk
Last edited by pone44; 11-13-2009 at 08:47 PM.
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This one is a non sense. Everyone out there pays for their internet (or their parents), and this is just an added cost.sites that are ratio based are p2l (as you pay with your bw that costs you something).
The only part i agree with is when he says: Sponsor it, if you don't, then move along.
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Even if we agree to that, we ain't gonna get rid of that by becoming their sponsor
Why would I pay for what i could get for free ?
Hold The Line
I don't even understand how anyone could possibly just be ok with "move along". Not only are they forcing you to donate or get banned, the entire site is turning into a freaking business. I browsed there site for 3 more minutes and already found 2 more personal ads:
And (In his signature)You can upload your PDF file and we'll send you hard bound printed book!
Yes, that is correct, we'll print out in black and white, and bind it in commercial grade binding materal, emboss (hotstamp) information on it (front, spine, and/or back) and ship it to you
Prices are:
$8.00 for the hard binding and embossing
$0.005 per sheet (2 pages)
The site is turning into a blatant front for advertising. How could you simply accept this and "move along"?Visit: www.yoctogon.com for all your usernet, vps, and server needs.
I had two options. Stop accepting donations, and just run the site for myself and if people want to be here fine (but no suggestions, no help, no comments), it's just here, or b. let a few people donate here and there. It didn't feel right letting some people donate, and then others just leech, bitch, moan, complain, and basically drag the site down.
Has some logic.
ps: Whats the difference to TL ?
ignorance floods this thread.
Last edited by Bad-Day; 11-14-2009 at 10:04 PM.
Hold The Line
It's incredibly easy to seed at TL and power users get 2 invites every month. There is absolutely no need to donate at all. You can donate if you want to support the tracker, or if you're too dumb/connection isn't good enough to keep a ratio.
For STN, if you dont donate, you're banned from the tracker.
That's so similar. Why hadn't I seen it before?
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