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    As of right now, with wait times, keeping a good ratio will be hell (for a home user). Although if you really have a 1gbps seedbox, you're doing it wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by IdolEyes787 View Post
    Btw don't listen to that partial -seeding cross -seeding horseshit; by doing that you are fucking things even more for anyone else.
    I would tend to disagree on that point. I think at the moment, until you have enough of a buffer to download some older files to continue seeding, partial seeding is the best way to go. TV shows die out to quickly - at 48h wait times it will be useless to download them and attempt to seed them. At first, I would recommend finding a pack. Those are occasionally downloaded from time to time, and easy to partially seed. Download a small bit of the pack (definitely not the whole thing) and wait until you have enough of a buffer to download a couple TV seasons you might like, it doesn't really matter which. After that, it's smooth sailing. With a couple seasons seeding, and perhaps whatever else you download on a regular basis, it's incredibly easy to max a home connection. TL has enough leechers that even with only old season packs, its incredibly easy to get a constant stream of upload.

    After you've gotten past the wait times seeding at TL, seeding is a complete breeze, I have never had to think twice before downloading something. If one can't maintain a ratio after the initial hump, then private trackers really aren't for that user.

    The wait times are the only thing I dislike about TL, it makes ratio a living hell for new users. The only things past wait times that have a decent stream of leechers will instantly make you hit ratio watch, and small files such as TV shows have a complete lack of leechers once 48 hours are up. It's almost if they want to weed out the users unfamiliar to torrent sites (which are a lot for a site like TL) and force them to donate in order to survive their inevitable failure. I made the same mistake by downloading a 12 GB season pack my first day (TL was my first real private tracker) and instantly getting a ratio warning. Luckily I managed to barely seed it to a .4 ratio right before I was banned, but you might not want to risk it .

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    Exactly Rart, you need a buffer so you can leech without the risk of having a poor ratio.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdolEyes787 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tv Controls you View Post
    Is it me or is it impossible to get your ratio up lol. I have a 1 gb seed box and I can't get past 1gb uploaded.
    Seeing that except for uploaders there is no possible reason to have a Gb seedbox except to buffer accounts at the expense of people with poorer connections,this is
    a. irony
    b. Luke 6:27-37
    c. calling the kettle black
    d hypocrisy
    e. all of the above


    Btw don't listen to that partial -seeding cross -seeding horseshit; by doing that you are fucking things even more for anyone else.

    File-sharing good joke.
    ahah, very well-put Idoleyes

    Quote Originally Posted by Rart View Post
    I would tend to disagree on that point. I think at the moment, until you have enough of a buffer to download some older files to continue seeding, partial seeding is the best way to go.
    i'd tend to agree with Idoleyes on this one. you should never have to download files you're not interested in just to be able to maintain a ratio (it doesn't mean i never did it though).
    whenever people agree with me, i always feel i must be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tv Controls you View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IdolEyes787 View Post
    Point out exactly were I said that you were a hypocrite for using a seedbox or a hypocrite at all for that matter.I merely offered a few possible different explanations and left it to everyone to come to their own conclusions.
    If I were to call you a hypocrite however it might be because you are complaining about not being able to make ratio and at the same time itching to get in there with a Gb box and no doubt overseed to your hearts content.

    Btw it would make more sense calling me a names if you didn't use a quote with me admitting to them myself.

    And TL might have done it to themselves but if you have any sense of propriety that doesn't give you free rein to make things worse .

    As for my title you aren't the quickest are you?
    I never claimed to be the quickest nor do I want to be known as the "quickest".

    You're now denying your own statement? You admitted to cross seeding, where as in this thread you referred to cross seeding as "horseshit". Your the hypocrite for contradicting your own feelings you displayed, and that's the conclusion.
    You admitted it to them..... ok...... your still a hypocrite, that changes nothing but I'm glad you realize it for yourself.

    Also why don't you cut the "horseshit" and realize that I'm "quick" enough to pick up that you were implying that list to me.
    I don't want to argue beyond saying that I haven't denied anything.
    Anyway it's the holidays so I apologize for the Nativity negativity You are aces and I am less than a fecal stain under the slug guts crushed beneath your feet .
    Group hug .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tv Controls you View Post
    Your the hypocrite
    please tell us something we don't already know
    whenever people agree with me, i always feel i must be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cinephilia View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IdolEyes787 View Post

    Seeing that except for uploaders there is no possible reason to have a Gb seedbox except to buffer accounts at the expense of people with poorer connections,this is
    a. irony
    b. Luke 6:27-37
    c. calling the kettle black
    d hypocrisy
    e. all of the above


    Btw don't listen to that partial -seeding cross -seeding horseshit; by doing that you are fucking things even more for anyone else.

    File-sharing good joke.
    ahah, very well-put Idoleyes

    Quote Originally Posted by Rart View Post
    I would tend to disagree on that point. I think at the moment, until you have enough of a buffer to download some older files to continue seeding, partial seeding is the best way to go.
    i'd tend to agree with Idoleyes on this one. you should never have to download files you're not interested in just to be able to maintain a ratio (it doesn't mean i never did it though).
    I have never had to think twice about downloading anything I wanted.

    The partial seeding is only necessary to get over that pain in the ass ratio wait times that exist-only-to-get-newbs-who-arent-used-to-ratio-sites to donate.

    After that I'd have to say that the only site easier to seed at than TL would be Demonoid.

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    TL isn't that difficult compared to most sites.,

    To get out of the 48 hour wait time, sort the torrents by number of seeds, and jump to the ones that have 0 seeders, but some leechers - keep scrolling through those until you find something you have (or can get).. I have usenet access, so it was a little easier probably for me, but I climbed out of that wait period without a seedbox, and a crappy 60 KB/s upload speed. (though.. now with a seedbox its much easier)..
    Once you've upped the 7 GB value, you won't have issues anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IdolEyes787 View Post
    I don't want to argue beyond saying that I haven't denied anything.
    Anyway it's the holidays so I apologize for the Nativity negativity You are aces and I am less than a fecal stain under the slug guts crushed beneath your feet .
    Group hug .
    Its alright Idol I'm sorry for calling you names, I just don't like being called a hypocrite

    Which in a sense makes me a hypocrite for calling you a hypocrite

    Anyway back on subject I can't get my file to cross seed on my torrent server i believe it uses torrentflux
    I might just try and seed from my home torrent machine, and see where I can get.
    Last edited by Tv Controls you; 12-12-2009 at 06:08 PM.

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    It's kinda easy, man. All you have to seed is PC Games and HD Movies, those are being downloaded for a really long time, so you'll still be able to seed it. Best thing what you can do is download the release somewhere else (RapidShare, another tracker, etc.) and it must be the original form of release (nfo, rar, r00, sfv). Then you can just add to seeding and you won't download a byte, but you'll be seeding!

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    Why jump through hoops to get ratio up in the first place. I used my tl account for a week, saw the slow pretimes and same material at torrentvault or SCC and said forget it.

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