Tv Controls you Banned from FST?

[Cabalo]

I'll be here to close this in a few hours.

[puckface]

And how the hell is this even relevant at all? Trading doesn't break FST rules, so if he was trading this thread wouldn't even be here in the first place.

No one is condoning his actions, so an "even vote" in no way, means that we accept his practices. This "even vote" is simply regarding whether he should stay on FST, after he decided to break the forum rules. The thread, in no way, displays our opinions toward invite selling, simply toward his status as a member here.

So perhaps if you actually sat down for a while and actually thought about what the thread is for, you would realize we weren't "hypocritical fuckheads".

Thank you, have a nice day.

Whilst I dont usually bother to respond, nowhere does it say that he broke the rules of FST. My understanding of the first post is that he was caught being an invite seller(or offerer as the case may be), and those types are not wanted here, and was given a chance to plead his case to be able to stay here. How can it not be about the opinions of invite selling, thats the whole jist of the OP? paraphrasing: " I tried to trade, I got cause by Cabalo (presumably), I was gonna get kicked cause Im a seller, but Cabalo let me plead my case first."

That being said, to answer your question about the "hypocritical fuckheads" part. Trading is frowned upon here, no? Selling is even worse, no? So it follows that the same people who condemn people for trading are letting the OP back onto FST who attempted to sell invites.. which as we agreed is worse than trading.

The point being that why condemn someone for one thing but let them slide for a worse offense.

If I misread or misunderstood the OP due to my 4th grade education, please consider me an illiterate fuckhead.

[megabyteme]

puckface,

There are a lot of "traders" among us. They are ostracized into their own sub-group, but are still members.

I cannot think of one known invite seller who is on FST. The OP was given the opportunity to plead his "case". Many spoke out against him being a member here at all. Others argued for disabled privileges. Some of us felt that he would not do that again and he was valuable enough to keep around. As I pointed out on page 1, he has been genuinely helpful to members here before any of this happened.

None of this means that anyone is going to risk their accounts by inviting the OP anywhere else. He will be able to post in threads, etc., but he will remain limited in the community. Ultimately, he will "pay" for his attempt/thought of invite selling.

As Rart said, this thread is about his ability to be a member, or not. No one has condoned anything.

[Tv Controls you]

puckface,

There are a lot of "traders" among us. They are ostracized into their own sub-group, but are still members.

I cannot think of one known invite seller who is on FST. The OP was given the opportunity to plead his "case". Many spoke out against him being a member here at all. Others argued for disabled privileges. Some of us felt that he would not do that again and he was valuable enough to keep around. As I pointed out on page 1, he has been genuinely helpful to members here before any of this happened.

None of this means that anyone is going to risk their accounts by inviting the OP anywhere else. He will be able to post in threads, etc., but he will remain limited in the community. Ultimately, he will "pay" for his attempt/thought of invite selling.

As Rart said, this thread is about his ability to be a member, or not. No one has condoned anything.

If you do a member comparison between fst and torrentinvites, it would surprise you that there are more members from here there.

Also thanks for explaining the thread to puck

[sez]

If you do a member comparison between fst and torrentinvites, it would surprise you that there are more members from here there.

Also thanks for explaining the thread to puck

well wow I think it just got real up in hurr.
Don't ask don't tell my ass.Names?nicks?especially of those that you know are actually sellers.
I've had this theory that most traders are actually sellers but I've never found a way to prove it although it stems from the fact that of the two invites are just but a fuckin commodity.
Time to let your star shine tvcy.
This could be it.

You ain't gotta make it public if you don't wanna,pm cabalo the det's.
If this ends well you can ditch this dumb tvcy handle(its actually a sentence lol) and create a new one that only the mods know about,it'll save you alot soci-elly trust me.

[MadIrish]

From what I've read of it, this really is a very odd thread.

Sort of fascinating... sort of a car crash, can't decide which is more dominant.

It was a good idea to have it in many ways, but I'm not sure I've ever really seen this sort of 'democracy' on the internet work well, it usually just leaves the person who'd have to act on the results more uncertain than when they started.

I haven't voted as I'm really not sure, my forum head says a member shouldn't really be held responsible for something that happens elsewhere, especially if they've been prepared to enter into an open dialogue about their prior behaviour. I'm not really sure the op has broken FST rules.

My BT head says even the thought of invite selling is just so lame that person should just be fucked off whoever they are.

Not that I'm sure its a great deal worse than trading, you could even say someone who paid for an account might be less likely to abuse it than someone who traded their way in, but that's another discussion.

I think if it were up to me, I'd say that if TV Controls You was to stay on FST he shouldn't be allowed to participate in anything to do with invites. That means no trades, no giveway requests. and no giveaway offers either, in public or in private. He could probably circumvent those restrictions for a short time with effort but sooner or later someone would report him breaking them, and he'd be banned. If he stuck to them however and participated positively in the community in other ways then perhaps he could start to repair his reputation.

Just a thought.

[cinephilia]

1) Torrentinvites is completely different than fst. A good thing to, as it is a scummy place, that I wish i was never associated with.

2) If money was my objective I would not have posted a giveaway here. If what your saying is true, I would have went to the trade section.

Trading and selling invites is a terrible thing I agree, as i despise both.

Even though money was not my objective, I was wrong for posting that thread on torrentinvites.

so what if they would have promoted you moderator ? would you still consider torrentinvites as a "scummy place" and invite selling as a "terrible thing" ?
nothing is less certain..

[Tv Controls you]

If you do a member comparison between fst and torrentinvites, it would surprise you that there are more members from here there.

Also thanks for explaining the thread to puck

well wow I think it just got real up in hurr.
Don't ask don't tell my ass.Names?nicks?especially of those that you know are actually sellers.
I've had this theory that most traders are actually sellers but I've never found a way to prove it although it stems from the fact that of the two invites are just but a fuckin commodity.
Time to let your star shine tvcy.
This could be it.

You ain't gotta make it public if you don't wanna,pm cabalo the det's.
If this ends well you can ditch this dumb tvcy handle(its actually a sentence lol) and create a new one that only the mods know about,it'll save you alot soci-elly trust me.

The only people I have found on both websites have been really inactive on this forum. I'm sure any big trader that sells, keeps both identities completely different, and some may even use a proxy depending on how anonymous they want to stay.

I pmed cabalo any who.

[doctrine9128]

Hello World. I decided to join the community when i heard about this specific debate. i personally work with TVcontrolsyou and am not here just to stand up for him. I am merely here to share my take on this incident from a personally point of view, whereas i know the guy! TVcontrolsyou(TCY) and I were previously members on the well known what.cd. When TCY invited someone through the schools proxy I, the person who invited him, the person he was inviting, and TCY himself, were all banned. At this time TCY was very distraught and i could see how much he cared about this site. he had an incredible ratio, including the fact that it is difficult to acquire a decent ratio on what.cd. i was pissed i was banned for this guys stupidity and surely hated him for a while but not long after i was on waffles and so was he. TCY has a nice secondary income coming primarily from the internet through his websites. With this being said i can see it being possible that he did try to sell invites. Although none were ever sold, which i confirmed, i do believe what he did was way out of line. Private sites rely heavily on the community and users of the site and selling invites just allows a possible "hit-and-run" user to join. Surely i don't agree with this, but i know TCY too well. he quickly gained credibility on the site through becoming a power user as soon as possible. He even set up a seedbox in a closet at his house for god's sake! Since the whole situation TCY has been "a wreck" to say the least. If he is banned from this site he many have to commit another crime, the PURCHASING of music. Although i strongly disagree with his intent to sell i cannot see this happen to a friend. who are we, fellow piraters, to judge the legalities of another man's actions. TCY commited treason, betraying the site and the community who support it. On the other hand we ourselves would be hypocrites to say he broke the rules, while we ourselves are breaking the laws. Through reading each and every post in this thread, all 19 pages at the time, i came to a conclusion on this Case of treason. I feel that we as a community must vote to allow Tvcontrolsyou to keep his account. I feel it is best that we vote to give him full access to his account, without limitations, for one critical reason. if we vote to put limits on his account we are surely telling Waffle's mod's how to do their job. i suggest they are notified of his "crime" and allow them to decide his final punishment. I do think he should be punished, but at the hand of the site he betrayed. thank you

[pone44]

I don't see how he could do that or put anyone in here in a bad spot if his privileges are revoked. Too many questions can be brought up in this situation. Sure the OP may regret his "attempted" invite sale but he could still do it in the future. His excuse made no sense to me at all. But it was not on this forum and if his he can't PM anyone, participate in the giveaway or trade section(Dp'ed), how could he hurt anyone here?

I haven't voted as I'm really not sure, my forum head says a member shouldn't really be held responsible for something that happens elsewhere, especially if they've been prepared to enter into an open dialogue about their prior behaviour. I'm not really sure the op has broken FST rules.

My BT head says even the thought of invite selling is just so lame that person should just be fucked off whoever they are.

I think if it were up to me, I'd say that if TV Controls You was to stay on FST he shouldn't be allowed to participate in anything to do with invites. That means no trades, no giveway requests. and no giveaway offers either, in public or in private. He could probably circumvent those restrictions for a short time with effort but sooner or later someone would report him breaking them, and he'd be banned. If he stuck to them however and participated positively in the community in other ways then perhaps he could start to repair his reputation.

Just a thought.

I agree. It was on another forum but is deceiving us here in a way. Could have just admitted it. Would have pegged him as a (attempted)invite seller but would be honest.