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    Quote Originally Posted by Wwwildthing View Post
    I know for a fact that Comcast and Earthlink used Giganews. The point being that if your going to outsource Usenet access, you'd want to go with the provider that has the longest retention and the best completion rates.

    So no, it's not off topic... stop being an ass.

    umm...
    ...well yeah it is off topic.
    this thread is about retention; not about what ISP uses whom, for newsgroup access.

    *you* stop being an ass.
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    Ok, I'll simplify it for you.

    Giganews is up to 517 days. Everyone else has less.

    Happy now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wwwildthing View Post
    Ok, I'll simplify it for you.

    Giganews is up to 517 days. Everyone else has less.

    Happy now?
    Well Astraweb has 508 days retention, compared to giga's 517. Giganews is $24.99 and Astraweb is $11 a month.

    Pretty much a no brainer there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteboy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Wwwildthing View Post
    Ok, I'll simplify it for you.

    Giganews is up to 517 days. Everyone else has less.

    Happy now?
    Well Astraweb has 508 days retention, compared to giga's 517. Giganews is $24.99 and Astraweb is $11 a month.

    Pretty much a no brainer there.
    If you work for minimum wage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteboy View Post
    Well Astraweb has 508 days retention
    Oh yah! 508 days of retention where anything over 200 days and under 300 is unusable and unrepairable as well as stuff over 450. No brainer there!

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    I just gave NewsDemon a 2 month spin and only had one incomplete... the file was hosted on an Astraweb server.

    In the 10 years I've used Giganews, there have been NO incompletes. Which of course, just verifies what I said earlier about outsourcing... if you were going to do that, you'd want the most reliable source.

    So yea, it is relevant. Your opinion regarding it isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wwwildthing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whiteboy View Post
    Well Astraweb has 508 days retention, compared to giga's 517. Giganews is $24.99 and Astraweb is $11 a month.

    Pretty much a no brainer there.
    If you work for minimum wage.
    @Wwwildthing,

    that's the most ridiculous thing i've heard, as well as insulting to a majority of members active here in the newsgroups forum. youve made yourself out to be quite the asshole.

    with your line of thinking; i wouldnt be surprised if your were a salesman for MONSTER Cable ---> http://www.monstercable.com/

    ---> http://www.lockergnome.com/griffin/2...s-vs-5-cables/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wwwildthing View Post
    If you work for minimum wage.
    I could quite easily afford giganews (vs astraweb), no question about that. However, just because you can doesn't mean you should. Ever heard of value for money? 10 more days retention for over double the cost. Or, 0.02% more service for over double the cost. I'd say "do the math" but I just did it for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by hdjunky View Post
    Oh yah! 508 days of retention where anything over 200 days and under 300 is unusable and unrepairable as well as stuff over 450. No brainer there!
    No problems with stuff in the 200-300 day range here, and just today grabbed something 452 days old without difficulty.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wwwildthing View Post
    I just gave NewsDemon a 2 month spin and only had one incomplete... the file was hosted on an Astraweb server.

    In the 10 years I've used Giganews, there have been NO incompletes. Which of course, just verifies what I said earlier about outsourcing... if you were going to do that, you'd want the most reliable source.

    So yea, it is relevant. Your opinion regarding it isn't.
    It's really not relevant. When comcast used giganews to provide newsgroup access to its customers, not only were you limited to 2gb a month a month (IIRC), but you only had restricted access to binaries (again IIRC it was around 60 days - definitely no more than 90), not the full retention that Giganews was offering "paying" customers on it's site at the time. With such limited access, the retention/completion over 100 days wouldn't matter, and is therefore not really relevant.

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    Why would you pay more for Usenet? I mean, people using Astraweb (well you should have already figured this one out), are doubling par2 creation, so in turn if you need the extra grab em', if not delete them before you download, problem solved I'd had to grab TV shows in the 200-300 day range, because I forgot to DVR, but they cam fine, I really thing this issues of in completeness is all a fluke, because there age ranges are seemingly the same time major "issues" ocurred, and well it seems if you just change to another server, the files will be fine.
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  10. Newsgroups   -   #30
    What most of the 'newcomers' to Usenet don't realize is that... what you pay, isn't as important, as where you subscribe.

    Astraweb claims to have their own servers (i.e - they are not a reseller), if that's true, then they're the only provider (in my 10 years of Usenet experience) that have 'incomplete' nzb's.

    I've never had one with Giganews, or any of their 'resellers'.

    If you can only afford (or are only willing to pay) $11 a month for access, so be it. But stop trying to tell us (that know better) that Astraweb is the best.

    If money is really an issue, NewsDemon has an unlimited $10.95 account... they're a Highwinds reseller.
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