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From a Buddhist standpoint, we enjoy celebrating Buddhamas! However, after years on Dawin's boat, I have come to a conclusion, that he is/was wrong! I also believe I can show you some evidence in the form of screen-shots too, if you're interested and when I have a little more time to upload them to my server!
en(un)lightened
Well, as the guy who sent this thread off-track, I will reiterate my observation that this fellow and his acolytes appear to be, by virtue of his/their essentially "formalizing by charter", pursuing a path that could easily be described as resembling that of a religion (absent a deity, of course).Originally Posted by devilsadvocate
No I'm not, I consider following my faith to be religion. An atheist declares no religion and I'm fine with them doing so. I actually spoke to one of my Atheist acquaintances today and asked what he would put down on a questionnaire that asked what religion he belongs to, his answer was "none". Not Atheist, not Agnostic...simply noneSo if this group was to congregate, and one person was designated to address the group extolling the virtues of Atheism, lead them in singing encomiums to Atheism while denigrating "evil, bloody, religion", you wouldn't feel this activity could be described as........yes, I see your difficulty now.
Is that what Atheist do?
Or you might refer to him as a Log Cabin Republican...
That would be a completely different meaning
I made no hint as to party or sexuality in fact I was clear that I was using the happy definition of "gay" and not the homosexual meaning.
Ted Haggard and certain notable Republicans aside, Conservative Christians tend to be heterosexual and desire no doubt about it. I could have used Conservative Muslims as my example, but hey where's the fun in that?
So you aren't derogating a religious person when you refer to him as "religious", but you cannot abide using the term to describe an Atheist.
Just to be clear, you understand.
It's not that I cannot abide when people use religion as a descriptive word for Atheists, what I'm pointing out is my experience of why people do it. Much like the insistence of calling it the Democrat party when it's the Democratic party.
So tell me, if they claim no religion why do you feel compelled to insist on on calling it that?
I do note that in an earlier post I said I like the saying "we are all Atheist, just some believe in one less God", so as an Atheist yourself how do you feel about the description of Atheist?
Just so you understand, I don't agree with the statement, I just like it. Given the context it was made I think it's clever.
We've now managed to fill several pages with utter crap arguing the point, and this fellow ugk4life has tied himself in knots trying to defend what he seems to think is a legitimate point-of-view.
That alone has made the whole thing worthwhile.
By the way, the statement you quote as "clever" is just silly, and utilizing it just because you "like it" causes it's flawed premise to accrue to you and whatever else you say.
I don't think you really want that, do you?
"Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."
-Mark Twain
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"has tied himself in knots trying to defend what he seems to think is a legitimate point-of-view"
man u r hilarious. u haven't proven anything other then u have an opinion. until u explain how atheism and religion correlate via your highlighted responses from a previous post it looks like u r the who is tied in a knot!
en(un)lightened
man u r fucked ^.
You undid yourself, noting in that last paragraph that I "have an opinion".
Unless you can quote me saying this...movement, or whatever you want to call it, is a religion, scarcely anything you've posted (and certainly none of your references to my own posting) in this entire thread can be supported or rationalized, and that is a fact, not just my opinion.
If you can find anyone who agrees with you, I'd love to hear from him/her/it.
"Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."
-Mark Twain
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u can have an "opinion" that the sky is orange... just make u look like a dumb ass, kinda the way u believe atheism is a religion.
en(un)lightened
Oh, h4r5hed by a noob; my reputation is in shambles.
How will I ever live this down.
"Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."
-Mark Twain
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what? your internet reputation? lol
en(un)lightened
I was assaying the irony of your commentary, not that you would notice.
Let's just say I shot one under your bow.
"Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."
-Mark Twain
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It might be me, but I always believed that religion was in basic terms: The outward appearance or acts that someone does to show others they have particular beliefs.
This doesn't even mean the person practicing any certain religion has to believe in it.
en(un)lightened
Simple enough, but probably not simple enough for some people.
Certain observations just aren't allowed, you see - especially when you are afflicted by one of these...oh, let's call them Crusaders for Idiocy.
"Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."
-Mark Twain
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