How make usenet 100% safe?

[0990pollp]

Hi

I understand that when downloading with SSL it is safe, but lets say one does download a NBZ from one of the search sites because the NZB downloaded is not through SSL is there a way to make it safe?

with torrents you have VPN active 100% even when surfing so it is 100% anonymous.

[dogie]

you can never be 100% safe mate, theres always some factor that we are not aware of untill it will appear

[TrollinThunder]

Just wear a condom while using all that HD porn.

[0990pollp]

thanks fo reply.

but this means usenet is 0% safe if using search sites as merlins portal for example.

because when you download the nzb you tell the whole world look I'm downloading this file.

one way ofcourse is to use VPN but that gives 2x cpu load.

edit I mean having both SSL and VPN gives 2x load.

well thats disaoppinting with torrents when using VPN where no data is stored it is 100% safe as with usenet everyone will see what nzb files are downloaded.

it's a shame that usenet has higher speed vs torrents.

[Chame1eon]

Why are you worried about people knowing what you are downloading?

[c0ld]

Most of the free indexers allow https connections. https://www.nzbindex.nl/ and https://www.binsearch.info/ for instance.

[lovato]

quit using it

[yann]

well thats disaoppinting with torrents when using VPN where no data is stored it is 100% safe as with usenet everyone will see what nzb files are downloaded.

If you used a VPN with torrents (whichs a lot of VPN providers frown on), you can use the NZB sites the same way - the load of the VPN is neglegible for a modern system, imo.

Besides, people have pointed out that many serach places, plus NZBmatrix, for example, supports SSL connections.

The NZB is simply a text file with a long list of message IDs. Possessing it is in the same league as possessing a .torrent file, ie, not criminal or anything like that.

it's a shame that usenet has higher speed vs torrents.

No, it's not a shame - it's by design, and we gladly pay for the priviledge.

[whiteboy]

I think you are being way paranoid worrying about getting caught downloading nzb's.

On a side note could someone explain the benefit of using a news providers ssl connection. I understand it is more secure but not sure exactly what the benefit is.

[Beck38]

Virtually all (*ALL*) the cableco's in the U.S. are, and have been for quite a while, using deep-packet inspection h/w and s/w that, while it can't 'crack' ssl (although there are some folks, myself included, that given enough cpu horsepower....) can easily collect (without using any esoteric means) the ip address you are connected to.

That is how they (the 'cablecos') can and do throttle things like P2P, newsgroups, etc. Just because you d/l a nzb doesn't mean that you are using it, though. I'll bet I d/l about 5 for every one I actually end up tasking the hoover to vacuum up, simply because I find a 'better' file.

On a side note could someone explain the benefit of using a news providers ssl connection. I understand it is more secure but not sure exactly what the benefit is.

Simply because certain providers (like the cablecos) can easily screw traffic types, and SSL helps hide it a bit. However, as they've gotten more and more bitchy (like coming up with low monthly transfer limits) they feel that they need to get more aggressive at 'network monitoring' and the like.

It takes human power to track things down, though, but they make so much money on the systems as it is, and they can make much more by overselling their capacity, that there is great incentive to put forth the effort, especially since they fully believe that the 'bandwidth hogs' are ruining their systems, even though they actually can't prove it (but they do have the receipt's for the fines from the FCC they've had to pay for the 'throttling').

I've never, and will never (hopefully), be on cable internet. My current low-apeed DSL line is 1/4 the 'full-out' speed of the local cableco, but THROUGHPUT (actual bits transferred over a month) is THREE TIMES the transfer limits of the cableco. This, at ONE THIRD the price of the cableco. Hmmm. Think I'll keep it.

Now if the state PUC doesn't screw the pooch and lets the telco stops offering DSL...