How make usenet 100% safe?

[whiteboy]

Virtually all (*ALL*) the cableco's in the U.S. are, and have been for quite a while, using deep-packet inspection h/w and s/w that, while it can't 'crack' ssl (although there are some folks, myself included, that given enough cpu horsepower....) can easily collect (without using any esoteric means) the ip address you are connected to.

That is how they (the 'cablecos') can and do throttle things like P2P, newsgroups, etc. Just because you d/l a nzb doesn't mean that you are using it, though. I'll bet I d/l about 5 for every one I actually end up tasking the hoover to vacuum up, simply because I find a 'better' file.

On a side note could someone explain the benefit of using a news providers ssl connection. I understand it is more secure but not sure exactly what the benefit is.

Simply because certain providers (like the cablecos) can easily screw traffic types, and SSL helps hide it a bit. However, as they've gotten more and more bitchy (like coming up with low monthly transfer limits) they feel that they need to get more aggressive at 'network monitoring' and the like.

It takes human power to track things down, though, but they make so much money on the systems as it is, and they can make much more by overselling their capacity, that there is great incentive to put forth the effort, especially since they fully believe that the 'bandwidth hogs' are ruining their systems, even though they actually can't prove it (but they do have the receipt's for the fines from the FCC they've had to pay for the 'throttling').

I've never, and will never (hopefully), be on cable internet. My current low-apeed DSL line is 1/4 the 'full-out' speed of the local cableco, but THROUGHPUT (actual bits transferred over a month) is THREE TIMES the transfer limits of the cableco. This, at ONE THIRD the price of the cableco. Hmmm. Think I'll keep it.

Now if the state PUC doesn't screw the pooch and lets the telco stops offering DSL...

Ah I see thanks for the info. I am also on slow dsl but it is very stable. I actually tried to switch to time warner. But got pissed at all the bs fees they wanted to charge me. $20 to install which is fine but then another $50 to turn on the wifi. Wtf it takes 1 minute to make an ssid and set a key. I laughed at them at hung up.

[TrollinThunder]

But if you could join an ISP that offered cable without limits, you certainly would. With FiOS I see 35/35 all day, every day, no limits or throttling.

[whiteboy]

But if you could join an ISP that offered cable without limits, you certainly would. With FiOS I see 35/35 all day, every day, no limits or throttling.

That was one of the first things I asked. TW said they have no limits. At least here in socal. Im moving in 2 months anyway so I'm just gonna wait and get a new isp when I move.

[Beck38]

That was one of the first things I asked. TW said they have no limits. At least here in socal. Im moving in 2 months anyway so I'm just gonna wait and get a new isp when I move.

Uhhhh... Time Warner? They are currently rolling out usage limits of 5GB/Month on their systems; those that haven't yet implemented that 'policy' rely on 'fair use' restrictions, which in short, means whatever they say it is.

Good Luck!

[whiteboy]

That was one of the first things I asked. TW said they have no limits. At least here in socal. Im moving in 2 months anyway so I'm just gonna wait and get a new isp when I move.

Uhhhh... Time Warner? They are currently rolling out usage limits of 5GB/Month on their systems; those that haven't yet implemented that 'policy' rely on 'fair use' restrictions, which in short, means whatever they say it is.

Good Luck!

Yah they are roling it out in obscure towns last I read. Either way if you read what I posted I said I didn't sign up.

[omgwtfbbq]

Your ISP doesn't look at what you DL, don't be paranoid.

[Barr_2010]

Your ISP doesn't look at what you DL, don't be paranoid.

I've just started using usenet, I'm new to it and don't fully understand how it works. just have a 5 day trial. Tell me, how private is it? I see it's possible to download in bulk, so what if there's something you don't want to download mixed in, do usenet, or the program used to access their server monitor usage, or, what do ISP's do? What if a file is misrepresented by name, and is there much spyware about to try to avoid?

[jordash]

Ive been caught three times using torrents til i moved to Usenet. The studio or company that catches u informs your isp. Your isp then disables your internet and u must call them to turn it back on(lying about relatives using your computer works well). Where i live(az)its a three strikes rule.
Ive actually setup a mass download of over 200gb several times which took over a day and a half of maxed out connection and haven't heard a thing from my isp.
Ive been downloading for over 8 years and was caught 3 times two of which was the same exact file(ya im an idiot!). Id have to say its not as severe as most would think.

[c0ld]

(although there are some folks, myself included, that given enough cpu horsepower....) can easily collect (without using any esoteric means) the ip address you are connected to.

Considering the ip isn't encrypted, that isn't really saying anything. A simple router would tell you.

[MaddogBC]

Ive been caught three times using torrents til i moved to Usenet. The studio or company that catches u informs your isp. Your isp then disables your internet and u must call them to turn it back on(lying about relatives using your computer works well). Where i live(az)its a three strikes rule.
Ive actually setup a mass download of over 200gb several times which took over a day and a half of maxed out connection and haven't heard a thing from my isp.
Ive been downloading for over 8 years and was caught 3 times two of which was the same exact file(ya im an idiot!). Id have to say its not as severe as most would think.

Never heard of this before, and I'm shocked they have the resources to target individuals here. Would you mind elaborating a little? Was the file a screener or something? I've always thought that with millions of downloads occurring every day (hour?) that the individual would never run into this situation. how common is this? TIA