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    Interesting in what way?

    I thought your whole mantra was that government is inherently incapable of running anything properly and the private sector was the only entity configured to provide efficient service.

    Wouldn't Singapore be considered "socialist" and therefore, automatically evil/bad?
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    that health “reform” that gives people more health insurance will only raise health care costs. Insurance itself is the problem. When people don't spend their own money, they don't care what health care costs.
    I wonder what the statistics are for people who pass away from illnesses that are treatable if caught early enough due to not going to the doctor because they were worried about what it might cost.

    Catastrophic health issues aside, could you please explain just how people who go to the doctor are not spending their "own money" when the average premium for a single person is $4,800+/- and a family is $13,500+/-. The vast majority of people don't spend anywhere near that amount.

    Surely the insurance companies care how much things cost or they wouldn't negotiate the prices to 1/4-1/5 the price an individual would have to pay.

    Personally I don't know anyone that goes to the doctor on a whim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clocker View Post
    Interesting in what way?
    HSAs demonstrated as a way of controlling costs is interesting, I think...one of the methodologies/strategies our congress utterly rejects, without basis and out-of-hand.

    Kind of like tort reform and interstate insurance shopping as methods that would be helpful but are never considered.

    Of course, if you'd like to defend these types of propensities, the kind that are aimed to defeat any sort of self-determinative ability being ascribed to the "insured"?

    I seem to remember your rejecting private individual control over savings accounts intended to augment Social Security as well, preferring instead to put it all in the hands of the G, right?
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    Since Thatcher/Blair took this country down the road of Private Finance Initiative and complete privatisation this country has gone down the tubes;

    You have as much chance of catching a disease in the hospital as anywhere else. The hospitals are not being cleaned properly.

    More prisoners are escaping or not being taken to court on time because the company concerned forgot.

    Soldiers are going to war ill equiped.

    From having one reasonably efficient Rail service we now have countless inefficient rail services who will only purchase the profit making routes. same applies to the buses.

    Profit before performance. You can't sack a firm who gave you a back hander to get the contract in the first place or am I being too cynical.
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    @bigboab

    You're British yes?

    When all your gas, electric and water was privatized did your bills go down?

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    Quote Originally Posted by devilsadvocate View Post
    @bigboab

    You're British yes?

    When all your gas, electric and water was privatized did your bills go down?
    Yes I'm British.

    As to your other comment that should be posted in the funny section. Electricity actually went up 37% last year. Water in Scotland has not been privatised yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboab View Post
    Yes I'm British.

    As to your other comment that should be posted in the funny section. Electricity actually went up 37% last year. Water in Scotland has not been privatised yet.

    Thanks for the quick answer, I asked because I'm one that like to take all things into account, not just the things that support my own personal preferences.

    What were the price increases like while the utilities were nationalized. Water would probably be the fairest comparison as the others depend on the cost of fuel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devilsadvocate View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bigboab View Post
    Yes I'm British.

    As to your other comment that should be posted in the funny section. Electricity actually went up 37% last year. Water in Scotland has not been privatised yet.

    Thanks for the quick answer, I asked because I'm one that like to take all things into account, not just the things that support my own personal preferences.

    What were the price increases like while the utilities were nationalized. Water would probably be the fairest comparison as the others depend on the cost of fuel.
    During nationalisation prices had to have Government approval and were generally in line with cost of living.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboab View Post
    During nationalisation prices...were generally in line with cost of living.
    What on earth does that mean, Bob?
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