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    Quote Originally Posted by Rart View Post
    Sigh. It's like talking to a wall. I give up. Do whatever you fucking want.
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    @merwais:

    You're views from TD are changing from 'I don't give a shit' to 'I like Torrentday and their speed and layout.'
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    More interesting info via TorrentDay..

    We do not keep log of what you have downloaded !
    We do not keep log of what you have uploaded !
    We do not log Members IP addresses !
    We do not log members activity at all !
    We are just collecting some numbers which is your seeding amount and your uploaded amount only.
    And this as well...

    • There is only and one Rule at TorrentDay: Share Back and keep a proper ratio. A 1.0 Ratio is acceptable.
    • Do not advertise other torrent sites.
    • You can download from TorrentDay.com and upload wherever ever you want. TorrentDay is all about Sharing. All we want from you is Seed back when you download something from TorrentDay.

    TorrentDay Is Giving Full Freedom To His Members. Enjoy and Seed back
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    That makes no sense^^^

    We do not log members activity at all !

    ...


    • There is only and one Rule at TorrentDay: Share Back and keep a proper ratio. A 1.0 Ratio is acceptable.

    Where is line for banning hnrs?
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    There are two kinds of scrape, official and official+unofficial
    official returns these keys ONLY!!!
    a main key called Files, has pair of key/value of these
    - complete: peers with 100%, ones who sent event=completed and still on the torrent(in other words.. Seeds).
    - downloaded: how many times "event=completed" was sent (ie, snatches)
    - incomplete: meaning the leeches
    - name: sometimes trackers use it, sometimes they don't.
    UNOFFICIAL:
    failure reason
    flags (contains min_request_interval)

    Public, private, grandpa's tracker or even grandma's tracker... that's the Scrape info.


    having that said, what merwais said about cutting percentage of the peer list, that happens ONLY with REALLY REALLY popular torrents, and even small trackers with 5Kpeers on a torrent, they can handle that.
    Last edited by AdrianPhoto; 02-03-2010 at 09:52 AM.

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  5. BitTorrent   -   #155
    Quote Originally Posted by merwais View Post
    anon-sbi, you should know, we are not talking about public tracker.

    We are talking about private tracker.
    The scrape procedure is exactly the same.

    Each torrent have a unique ID !
    The SHA1 hash, yes.

    Each member have a unique passkey.
    Which is part of the URL.

    For Example.

    ...

    300+50 a total of 350 unique rows in MySQL database.

    When client is sending a request to get total amount of peers.
    Private tracker source sends a request to MySQL for the unique torrent ID to check the total amount of seeders and leechers.

    It will plus all rows which includes seeders and leechers and sending back to the client.
    This is where you're getting it wrong. As far as I can see, the tracker doesn't go through all the rows to send you the totals. The counts are calculated like this:

    PHP Code:
     $ret mysql_query("INSERT INTO peers ... or err('tracker error');
            if (
    $ret)
            {
                if (
    $seeder == "yes")
                    
    $updateset[] = "seeders seeders 1";
                else
                    
    $updateset[] = "leechers leechers 1";
            } 
    That's a fragment from announce.php from the TBdev source. The "..." means I cut off that part because it was too long, feel free to check it out here:
    http://www.koders.com/php/fidE3B1B27...9.aspx?s=mysql

    If seeder = yes (meaning someone just jumped the torrent with &left=0), then seeders = the old amount of seeders plus 1. Else (someone jumped with a non-zero &left= value), leechers = the old amount of seeders plus 1. That's how the seeder and leecher numbers are calculated. The tracker doesn't go through all the rows. It only sends those amounts.

    If the guy has stopped the torrent, we do the opposite, i.e. subtract one from the according amount:
    PHP Code:
    if ($event == "stopped")
    {
        if (isset(
    $self))
        {
            
    mysql_query("DELETE FROM peers WHERE $selfwhere");
            if (
    mysql_affected_rows())
            {
                if (
    $self["seeder"] == "yes")
                    
    $updateset[] = "seeders = seeders - 1";
                else
                    
    $updateset[] = "leechers = leechers - 1";
            }
        }

    I think you're confusing scraping with announcing and how some trackers won't give you all the peer IPs you request here. Furthermore, the latter doesn't happen because of anti-piracy agencies, but simple bandwidth saving, and the tracker only gives you a set amount of peers, not a %.

    and anon-sbi, you know it better how a torrent client works
    I can assure you I know how torrent clients work.

    By the way, it's interesting to see how I mentioned delacct.php and now it's gone, then I mentioned the Top 10 and now it's gone... perhaps I should talk about browse.php?
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    Merwais is also staff on speed.cd, the site infamous for impersonating axxo's releases.
    Last edited by Cabalo; 02-03-2010 at 06:16 PM.

  7. BitTorrent   -   #157
    Quote Originally Posted by Cabalo View Post
    Merwais is also staff on speed.cd
    Yes, I noticed that as well.

    Didn't he also deny being Speed.cd's merwais here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by anon-sbi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cabalo View Post
    Merwais is also staff on speed.cd
    Yes, I noticed that as well.

    Didn't he also deny being Speed.cd's merwais here?

  9. BitTorrent   -   #159
    how many tracker staff is here? thats look bad spying ppl!

  10. BitTorrent   -   #160
    https://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-gen...-at-fst-232869

    And others not mentioned on that list.
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