TorrentDay fakes stats and members! Be aware of this site.

[Albo Da Kid]

Wow this is amazing, I've never seen anything like this before. Currently they have 200304 members

This might end up being the new Zamunda

Personally, I signed up, looked around, and logged out. Already have too many trackers offering the same content.

Yea true. If they start uplodaing some old & rare stuff it would make it much better

[merwais]

Rome wasn't built in a day

I am sure they will, i think TD will beat my favorite tracker IPT.
Their user base is increasing very fast.

[snagit]

Looks like they reached their goal - 200k members.

Let's see how far this site goes in the future!

[Rart]

So I decided to do a little investigating -

You won't find any valid user ID under 99000. You can try, I've already tried multiple times to find users with a ID below that, to no avail.

My theory is also confirmed by the fact that the "Torrentday" SysOp user is user ID 99904, and from thereon out the member ID's become valid. So unless 99k members magically vanished or were pruned (doubtful considering I've seen accounts that haven't logged on since day 1 and aren't pruned), AND managed to join before even the owner of the site joined, these statistics are complete crap.

Most likely these faked statistics were used to initially spur users to join the site, thinking that they already had a lot of members, which they obviously don't. Even so, obtaining 100k members is still nothing to sneeze at, if those later statistics have even the slightest ounce of truth in it.

Finally, I downloaded a torrent for the heck of it and Utorrent only reports half the peers that the site does. Even more faking of statistics to make users think the site is bigger than it is?

I think the real question is, how much are you willing to invest in a tracker that tries so hard to deceive its members?

[merwais]

Rart, you are paranoid my friend

Even 30-50k registered member is enough for a private tracker which is online for 3-4 month

I know a sysop who is hidden and id is just above 1

torrents.ru - their torrents have 6-7k peers each of them, if you download, they will not allow you to get inside 4-7k peers at once, they will allow you to reach maximum to 50-60 peers first, they are doing this for anti piracy companies not to trace all swarm.

Learn some C++ coding and MySQL also

any way, fuck them, good for TD owner, why should we care LoL
at least he got the users.

xnt.nu been online for the paste 5 months or more... they have 15,850 members only and more then half of those users are idle.

Remember, even TL have 180k registered members and i am very sure 65% of those members are idle !

You ever saw a torrent with 150k peers on TL ? NO !!!!

[Rart]

Even 30-50k registered member is enough for a private tracker which is online for 3-4 month

Sure, 30-50k users is a great amount that any tracker can survive on. However, lying about the fact that you have an extra 100,000 non existent members just to attract further users brings up certain issues of integrity that make me extremely uncomfortable about using a tracker such as this, and I'm sure many others would agree with me.

I know a sysop who is hidden and id is just above 1

Of course you can have a sysop with an ID above 1, I'm not sure what you're trying to prove with this. The point I was trying to make was that the owner of the site has a user ID of 99904, and thus there are no ids below that, as they are sorted by date joined (and you can check, there aren't any). Then the ID's go to 200,000, meaning that there's approximately 100k members on the site, half of what they claim. If even those numbers are legit.

torrents.ru - their torrents have 6-7k peers each of them, if you download, they will not allow you to get inside 4-7k peers at once, they will allow you to reach maximum to 50-60 peers first, they are doing this for anti piracy companies not to trace all swarm.

Learn some C++ coding and MySQL also

Perhaps you're the one that should learn how Utorrent operates. When you start a torrent, in the seeders/leechers column you get two numbers. The first is how many you are ACTIVELY connected to, and the second is how many there are TOTAL on the torrent. When I started the torrent, before I even began downloading, the 2nd number only showed half of what was on the site.

And the peer limit is certainly not made to stop anti piracy companies. You can set the connected peers limit to as much as you want, it's just simply not feasible/possible to connect to that many peers at once. Over a certain period on a popular torrent on BCG I managed to connect to over 600 peers at once, a little dumb on my part but trackers certainly don't limit the amount of peers you can connect to in order to "stop anti piracy agencies".

xnt.nu been online for the paste 5 months or more... they have 15,850 members only and more then half of those users are idle.

Remember, even TL have 180k registered members and i am very sure 65% of those members are idle !

You ever saw a torrent with 150k peers on TL ? NO !!!!

I really have no idea what point you're trying to get at here, if you care to elaborate further I'll respond. I never mentioned anything about the percentage of active users at a site.

[MadIrish]

So I decided to do a little investigating -

You won't find any valid user ID under 99000. You can try, I've already tried multiple times to find users with a ID below that, to no avail.

My theory is also confirmed by the fact that the "Torrentday" SysOp user is user ID 99904, and from thereon out the member ID's become valid. So unless 99k members magically vanished or were pruned (doubtful considering I've seen accounts that haven't logged on since day 1 and aren't pruned), AND managed to join before even the owner of the site joined, these statistics are complete crap.

Most likely these faked statistics were used to initially spur users to join the site, thinking that they already had a lot of members, which they obviously don't. Even so, obtaining 100k members is still nothing to sneeze at, if those later statistics have even the slightest ounce of truth in it.

Finally, I downloaded a torrent for the heck of it and Utorrent only reports half the peers that the site does. Even more faking of statistics to make users think the site is bigger than it is?

I think the real question is, how much are you willing to invest in a tracker that tries so hard to deceive its members?

Heh, that's pretty interesting (even if there might be a sensible explanation).

To be honest, and this is just my opinion, I'm not a member of the site and have nothing tangible either against it (or for it) but I do find such apparently insane growth a bit suss... gotta question how many of those would be dupes, leechers or other such things rather than genuine, active and rule-abiding accounts. And you've also kinda gotta question site security with the way its url has been spammed all over the net since it started, and also more generally the long-term sustainability of somewhere that's had such rapid growth so early in its existence (if its user numbers are even remotely accurate).

Merwais - with all due respect fella, you hardly qualify as an impartial voice about this place, I don't know what your link is with it and I don't really care all that much.... but I think its perfectly valid and not paranoid at all for people to be a bit cautious about somewhere that grows at such an insane rate when many established trackers have issues with lack of activity. I hate to tell you this but technical number of members does not = best site, in any area on the internet really, not just p2p. How many of them use the site properly, don't h&r or cheat, seed properly, fill requests, help other users etc? How secure is the site, how well coded is it, how experienced are the staff, how safe their sources, how well behaved with donations etc? Those are the important things. Perhaps torrentday also has the bestest users and staff ever, but just because its gained 50 trillion users in 4 months open doesn't necessarily make it great.

Oh, and btw, TD = Torrent Damage. Find another abbreviation, Tdy or something

[merwais]

yeah, i have nothing to do with TD, was just expressing my feelings.
Fuck them

i was just mentioning about torrents.ru, they have system like TD also. that's all.

[TP635]

So I decided to do a little investigating -

I already know, that's why i never have the slightest intrest in the tracker...... The maths just don't look right.

[Cabalo]

I was checking what rart said, and indeed it all seems too fishy.
The fact they advertise the number of members on the front page, plus banners at several sites, makes me want to not touch it for now.

There is definitely something going on.