I'm not making any more giveaways

[AdrianPhoto]

When you break trackers' rules you take your chances of things like this happening, it was your choice unfortunately.

Like I said before, it WAS my fault and I should be ready to take responsibility for my actions

Try contacting him on FST or on the tracker... Or even his email.

actually I did, but with no response

its not hard to fake speed test and proofs.

as for ratio proofs, I think that's super easy but what about profile links? and are you saying you can fake a direct link to speedtest.net? I'm sure that the company runs speedtest would be really interested in you. as for the flaming posts.. no comment

if you can resist the temptation and not perform giveaways then you might consider looking for good candidates via their requests

I think this is the best of what been said till now, thank you.

[Mugur]

I think you should be a little more patient and give him a chance to improve his ratio. Also, I don't think that complaining to the staff would bring you any good.
About invite requests: you may have unpleasant surprises with them also, I tell you from my own experience.

[IdolEyes787]

as for ratio proofs, I think that's super easy but what about profile links?

It doesn't discount the possibility of them having multiple accounts or having an impressive ratio built by cheating.
Unfortunately most profile links don't show forum posts which is the best ( but not guaranteed ) proof of authenticity ( people who break rules tend to try and remain anonymous)

[SAM]

I always think it's a risk we should to take that sometimes the person we invite won't use the opportunity we offer properly.
You see,whatever cautions you use there is still a slight possibility that who you invite maybe a cheater or trader or a collector.
but let's say we stopped public giveaways then there will be no reason most of members here to stay for.
95% of members in this forum and many others are here for getting invites if they don't get them by giveaways or by making friends most of them will turn to trading.cause there will be no other option.
so public giveaways if not against the tracker rules will be a good way to recruit a good new members.
Also i think it's a great idea that the invitee can cancel his invite.actually i was thinking about this a week ago when i wanted to cancel an invite i gave but the only option i had is to contact the tracker staff.
but we have to put in our minds that some people asking for an invite for a certain tracker cause they heard about it but when they actually get in they just get disappoint and don't use it so we have to be patient.
not all the people we invite will be good.

[Cabalo]

You see,whatever cautions you use there is still a slight possibility that who you invite maybe a cheater or trader or a collector.

Yes SAM, that could really happen, don't you think SAM ?
We must be very careful with that, don't you think SAM?

[SAM]

You see,whatever cautions you use there is still a slight possibility that who you invite maybe a cheater or trader or a collector.

Yes SAM, that could really happen, don't you think SAM ?
We must be very careful with that, don't you think SAM?

of course that can happen but still we have to take the risk if that will be within the tracker rules that we offer its invites.

[MadIrish]

Maybe I'm strange, but I really don't get the public giveaway thing. Why anyone who cares about any site would invite random people simply on the basis of a couple of ratio proofs and a speedtest has always been beyond me. Any muppet can rent a seedbox for a month, trade their way into a couple of recognised trackers and pointlessly buffer a couple of ratios to make them look like a good user. By no means does that mean they will be, and by no means would I personally ever risk my own accounts by inviting them on that basis alone.

Speedtests mean nothing really. I know plenty of people who are brilliant torrenters, respecting sites, seeding for ages, getting involved properly in the communities and keeping a positive ratio... while having sucky home connections. Hell, I did it for several years, on sites most people here seem to think you can't survive on without a seedbox, with just 25kb/s upload. In fact, someone with a crappy connection but who can show they survive fine on a good site MUST be a good seeder and resposible torrenter.

And as for "ratio proofs", why do people think the bigger is the better? 1.05 is surely the ideal ratio for someone who is using a tracker properly and genuinely to have? 10 mins effort and a few £ renting a box to buffer hundreds of gb you'll never actually use does not in my mind = proper and genuine use of a tracker, or indicate that someone will use another site I could invite them to properly either.

So, for me at least, the GA cult of ratio proofs and speedtests is pointless, silly and little better guarantee of inviting good users than simply handing out invites to anyone who asks. So anyone who does a GA on that basis alone and gets burnt only has themself to blame imo.

[apextwin146]

Maybe I'm strange, but I really don't get the public giveaway thing. Why anyone who cares about any site would invite random people simply on the basis of a couple of ratio proofs and a speedtest has always been beyond me. Any muppet can rent a seedbox for a month, trade their way into a couple of recognised trackers and pointlessly buffer a couple of ratios to make them look like a good user. By no means does that mean they will be, and by no means would I personally ever risk my own accounts by inviting them on that basis alone.

Speedtests mean nothing really. I know plenty of people who are brilliant torrenters, respecting sites, seeding for ages, getting involved properly in the communities and keeping a positive ratio... while having sucky home connections. Hell, I did it for several years, on sites most people here seem to think you can't survive on without a seedbox, with just 25kb/s upload. In fact, someone with a crappy connection but who can show they survive fine on a good site MUST be a good seeder and resposible torrenter.

And as for "ratio proofs", why do people think the bigger is the better? 1.05 is surely the ideal ratio for someone who is using a tracker properly and genuinely to have? 10 mins effort and a few £ renting a box to buffer hundreds of gb you'll never actually use does not in my mind = proper and genuine use of a tracker, or indicate that someone will use another site I could invite them to properly either.

So, for me at least, the GA cult of ratio proofs and speedtests is pointless, silly and little better guarantee of inviting good users than simply handing out invites to anyone who asks. So anyone who does a GA on that basis alone and gets burnt only has themself to blame imo.

Thats the kind of shit that screws over BT ..It moves BT from the filesharing platform/protocol to something totally different
I agree ratio proof and Profile links dont guarantee anything but what else do you suggest .. Wait I knw .. Join countless other forums .. Talk to other members, lick their ass, please them and if you are good at it then they might think you are trustworthy and invite you to BT Tracker where you just actually share files which is illegal to begin ..
So lets say someones get a internet connection and wants to download the latest games and Movies for free .. People tell him that BT is free unlike Newsgroup and Rapidshare .. So he decides to try his hand at it .. Little does he knw what awaits him .. Befriend ppl on internet who might be spastics in real , appease them and all the bullshit .. For what just to share his files on the internet ... Do you really think that avg user would do all these things .. Now dont give me that shit that these ppl have to do this just cuz some retard on the internet said that its a privilege to have these trackers .. There is no privilige associated with it .. Trackers are not where the content originates so they have no right over it anyways

Apart from that my good Sir FST is full of Threads of how trusted ppl have betrayed etc .. So there is no fool proof way to do this .. Just dont bash Public GA just cuz some high handed retards think that its just not right ..

Public giveaways are a gateway to this BT scene

@Cabalo - You need to spell it out clearly otherwise SAM wudnt understand what you are trying to imply

[MadIrish]

Thats the kind of shit that screws over BT ..It moves BT from the filesharing platform/protocol to something totally different
I agree ratio proof and Profile links dont guarantee anything but what else do you suggest .. Wait I knw .. Join countless other forums .. Talk to other members, lick their ass, please them and if you are good at it then they might think you are trustworthy and invite you to BT Tracker where you just actually share files which is illegal to begin ..
So lets say someones get a internet connection and wants to download the latest games and Movies for free .. People tell him that BT is free unlike Newsgroup and Rapidshare .. So he decides to try his hand at it .. Little does he knw what awaits him .. Befriend ppl on internet who might be spastics in real , appease them and all the bullshit .. For what just to share his files on the internet ... Do you really think that avg user would do all these things .. Now dont give me that shit that these ppl have to do this just cuz some retard on the internet said that its a privilege to have these trackers .. There is no privilige associated with it .. Trackers are not where the content originates so they have no right over it anyways

Apart from that my good Sir FST is full of Threads of how trusted ppl have betrayed etc .. So there is no fool proof way to do this .. Just dont bash Public GA just cuz some high handed retards think that its just not right ..

Public giveaways are a gateway to this BT scene

Dude, that's just my opinion, which I don't really think is all that high handed or retarded, but that notwithstanding, I'm also pretty sure its not what "screws over the BT scene". Certainly no more than people constantly breaking tracker rules by handing out invites to people they don't know from Adam on the basis of a couple of screenshots.

All that stuff you said about joining countless forums and kissing countless ass just isn't true. Jeez, there's hundreds of thousands of people who use private bittorrent sites and have never had to do any of that, or wanted to. Usually because those people are happy enough with one or two trackers, but not just because of that. Its more than possible to become a member of sites with any sort of content without invites, there's irc interviews and open signups all over the place; sure the most l33t sites might not operate that way... but then the vast majority of those don't actually have any particularly unique content anyway.

I'm on virtually every private tracker I could ever want or have time to use, and have never had to do any of the stuff you describe. A couple of those I was invited to through staff offers in other sites p/u forums, another couple through friends made in simply going about my time on the net without any thought of gaining invites. In fact not even on BT related sites. All the rest I signed up for at some stage when they were open, and none of it was any hassle or effort whatsoever really. Public giveaways on sites like this one have never even remotely played a role, and in all honesty I really doubt they are a gateway for the vast majority of people who use private torrents, but have no idea about or care for the "Bt scene", just want to download some files. A mate, either real-life or online points them towards (or invites them to) a site or two and that's what they happily use ad infinitum without a thought of joining dozens of others.

Besides, how can public giveaways be a gateway if everyone wants "ratio proofs" from established trackers (and expect them to show massive buffers which "normal" people don't create), and expect them to show speedtests with upload rates far above what a normal home connection is (in most parts of the world)? Surely those requirements favour the tiny majority who rent servers and already have access to plenty of trackers?

[apextwin146]

Dude, that's just my opinion, which I don't really think is all that high handed or retarded, but that notwithstanding, I'm also pretty sure its not what "screws over the BT scene". Certainly no more than people constantly breaking tracker rules by handing out invites to people they don't know from Adam on the basis of a couple of screenshots.

Then please suggest a easier way of handing out invites ? Again you are suggesting that you should not invite just anyone but only the ppl you knw ..
Since you have given an account of your story let me give you an example .. None of the friends (or friends friends etc) even knw what uTorrent is .. Now i have some invites which are simply lying there without being put into use .. So in your opinion i should just keep them there for stats sake right? Cuz god forbid if i give to some needy user that has put up a request for it .. I am breaking a bt commandment ..

All that stuff you said about joining countless forums and kissing countless ass just isn't true. Jeez, there's hundreds of thousands of people who use private bittorrent sites and have never had to do any of that, or wanted to. Usually because those people are happy enough with one or two trackers, but not just because of that. Its more than possible to become a member of sites with any sort of content without invites, there's irc interviews and open signups all over the place; sure the most l33t sites might not operate that way... but then the vast majority of those don't actually have any particularly unique content anyway.

No there arnt hundreds of thousands of BT users in these pvt trackers .. Most of them have a user limit and i guess you are aware of it .. I havent personally visited any other forum but i can tell you this that a lot of new folks that want to get into trackers do it the Pvt Invite forum way and we all knw what happens there ..
To your other point .. I want to join a tracker that specializes in Ipod format Releases.. Now its not a L33t site (its not any level or watever too) .. It dsnt have open signups nor any IRC interview .. Now what do u expect me to do?
Same is the case with many sites that provide some niche content but wait according to your logic those are all l33t sites ..

I'm on virtually every private tracker I could ever want or have time to use, and have never had to do any of the stuff you describe. A couple of those I was invited to through staff offers in other sites p/u forums, another couple through friends made in simply going about my time on the net without any thought of gaining invites. In fact not even on BT related sites. All the rest I signed up for at some stage when they were open, and none of it was any hassle or effort whatsoever really. Public giveaways on sites like this one have never even remotely played a role, and in all honesty I really doubt they are a gateway for the vast majority of people who use private torrents, but have no idea about or care for the "Bt scene", just want to download some files. A mate, either real-life or online points them towards (or invites them to) a site or two and that's what they happily use ad infinitum without a thought of joining dozens of others.

I doubt you are the point of reference in every statistic/conclusion that i am trying to draw here so i am really not interested in how you started n what not .. By that logic BMTV,BitME and TT etc were all open signups when they started but are they now?

Besides, how can public giveaways be a gateway if everyone wants "ratio proofs" from established trackers (and expect them to show massive buffers which "normal" people don't create), and expect them to show speedtests with upload rates far above what a normal home connection is (in most parts of the world)? Surely those requirements favour the tiny majority who rent servers and already have access to plenty of trackers?

Again useless comment .. I have personally got invites based on just my home speed connection which was 512 kbps at that time .. Its just that my machine was on 24/7 so i could seed the entire time .. No one at that time wanted me to show them speed tests for Mbps lines .. So as i said earlier speedtests dont matter (re read my first post slowly this time so that you can find out where exactly i said this) ..

Look i mean no offense to you or anything .. All i want to say is that Public GA are requried .. Everyone needs a starting place and this is it .. Just to give you an example someof ppl who are currently staffing at various sites got their first invites here in public giveaways ..

Apart from that no matter what happens you can never build up trust on the internet .. So the whole Idea of inviting users you trust seems bullshit to me .