Power Hungry & Paranoid Maniacs

[stoi]

I dont want one, i have gmail i dont need an msn one, i would not even play dirt 2 because you had to have one, and i just refuse to get an msn account.

happy.

[RealitY]

Then whats your gmail if you prefer to talk on that...

[Slickerey]

Looks like you two have a long history of knowing each other. I'm assuming that you've been through a lot of things—both good and bad.

[Rart]

There is nothing 'Cool' about going against tracker rules, which are drafted keeping in mind the safety of 'end users'.

To a certain extent, I have agree with what n00bz0r is saying here.

While I'm all for freedom of speech and speaking for yourself rather than peddling to the favor of tracker staff(which I have expressed my opinion of multiple times here), there's a certain point where it crosses from simple expression of opinion to outright hostility.

This thread just seems to almost evocate a response that it's "cool" to stand out and rebel against tracker staff, which is no way what I would, in any way, believe to fit in with the idea of freedom of expression.

The point is to treat staff as if they were any other regular member here, not as if they were worse.

[dvdasacd]

freedom of speech and individual privacy.

Which DOESN'T happen anywhere else. Period.

WRONG

uhuh, I'm talking about the place you were banned from, though, funnily enough (as life goes), you've seemed to mature a lot since becoming mod here (which is great. I nearly threw up when I first saw you become mod (since I value FST), but I really like your posts these days despite disagreeing with FST's and your stance on supporting trading etc), so being banned from where I'm talking about doesn't mean anything to me.

Anyway my point is: There are other bt forums with exactly the same traits which are being celebrated about FST in this thread, too .

Sorry to burst your bubble

er...long live FST?

[IdolEyes787]

Correct me if I'm wrong but one of the foundations of freedom of speech is not penalizing people for promoting ideas( short of criminal activity ) you don't happen to agree with . I think that is basically at the core of the whole idea.

[dvdasacd]

I know, it sounds hypocritical but it didn't have anything to do with freedom of speech or promoting ideas....unfortunately I'm not allowed to go into the details and wouldn't deem it appropriate even if i were anyway.

Again, my point was: ^

[IdolEyes787]

Not allowed to go into details is what the French like to call irony.

[Cabalo]

freedom of speech and individual privacy.

Which DOESN'T happen anywhere else. Period.

WRONG

uhuh, I'm talking about the place you were banned from, though, funnily enough (as life goes), you've seemed to mature a lot since becoming mod here (which is great. I nearly threw up when I first saw you become mod (since I value FST), but I really like your posts these days despite disagreeing with FST's and your stance on supporting trading etc), so being banned from where I'm talking about doesn't mean anything to me.

Anyway my point is: There are other bt forums with exactly the same traits which are being celebrated about FST in this thread, too .

Sorry to burst your bubble

er...long live FST?

You proved my point correct with that statement.
And for the record, I didn't mature anything, I doubt I would have been promoted here if I weren't mature enough.
What I am used to is to deal with immature people, who have a hard time seeing farther than the obvious.
See, you consider me a trading supporter, when it's obviously wrong. Just ask many of the traders here, those hardcore ones. I'm just mature enough to understand that just because someone's choice is to trade, that doesn't make him a bad person, as so many immature kids out there think. It's their problem, not mine.
Though, as a representative of this site, which allows it to happen, I have to assure they are on a safe environment to do so. There would be no point keeping such sections alive if we didn't give a shit on the member's security. This is one of the reasons why I'm merciless with scum like those boys who come here try to hunt them down just to show up. No matter who they are or where do they come from.

And by the way, that site sucks. Once an admin bans someone because he is "not CFS material", it says a lot. A site that tells their users how they should behave out there on the internet, and maintain a great posture to honour the site, is going too far on what we call the freedom of speech.
Too many of those who still are members think the exact same way.
Besides, as you probably know, I still have access to that site, and to those other sections which aren't supposed to be viewable by most people, so don't start me on this one, there are some juicy screenshots that if showed up would turn most members against that site. And don't make me talk about some scripts installed there too, you wouldn't be so happy talking about such place if you knew half of it.
It's just that I don't give a blind fuck for that site, for the people who still hang out there, and I won't be harassed to go through this again.

[dvdasacd]

You proved my point correct with that statement.
And for the record, I didn't mature anything, I doubt I would have been promoted here if I weren't mature enough.
What I am used to is to deal with immature people, who have a hard time seeing farther than the obvious.
See, you consider me a trading supporter, when it's obviously wrong. Just ask many of the traders here, those hardcore ones. I'm just mature enough to understand that just because someone's choice is to trade, that doesn't make him a bad person, as so many immature kids out there think. It's their problem, not mine.
Though, as a representative of this site, which allows it to happen, I have to assure they are on a safe environment to do so. There would be no point keeping such sections alive if we didn't give a ***** on the member's security. This is one of the reasons why I'm merciless with scum like those boys who come here try to hunt them down just to show up. No matter who they are or where do they come from.

And by the way, that site sucks. Once an admin bans someone because he is "not CFS material", it says a lot. A site that tells their users how they should behave out there on the internet, and maintain a great posture to honour the site, is going too far on what we call the freedom of speech.
Too many of those who still are members think the exact same way.
Besides, as you probably know, I still have access to that site, and to those other sections which aren't supposed to be viewable by most people, so don't start me on this one, there are some juicy screenshots that if showed up would turn most members against that site. And don't make me talk about some scripts installed there too, you wouldn't be so happy talking about such place if you knew half of it.
It's just that I don't give a blind ***** for that site, for the people who still hang out there, and I won't be harassed to go through this again.

If you don't condone trading, then ok, I was wrong with that assumption (...and whatevs). See I *also* know that just cos someone trades, it doesn't mean they're "scum" (or even can't be a friend of yours). They are just as likely to be a wonderful person in real life. It ONLY means that they are breaking a certain rule of probably 99% of their trackers. They disagree with that rule and that's their choice...it's nothing more than simple rules, it's not personal, like some staffers have seemed to see it. I hate the term "trading scum"...traders are people too

If you still have access to that site, then you will know that it has undergone huge changes as a community recently (perhaps the biggest progress in its evolution so far. Good friends of mine who don't really like the place have welcomed these recent changes very positively) - and that probably half of what you're saying and assuming about it is no longer applicable. Just check with your 'source', whoever it is.. (lol)....

Anyway what you think of that site doesn't bother me (me, I LOVE the place)...I am one to celebrate different opinions and freedom of speech (but I can't be bothered to talk about the issue behind why you were banned, that's a whole separate topic and I can already foresee a hypothetical conclusion to that discussion, that our opinions are simply different on that matter).

Anyway one thing I can see with you here, is that old hard feelings (towards people) often never change...and to that i say: mehz...I still think you've matured (or in some way I can't articulate right now, improved character-wise, lol). E.g., for me, you've kept the humor () but shed a lot of the arrogance I once saw in your posts...(Edit: oh i know: there's more humility, respect, and restraint (from undesirable attitude) now.)...And I'm saying this because I am one to always be direct and honest (whether it's criticism or a compliment), as opposed to ass-kissy/afraid to say my honest thoughts (oh and this is my username EVERYWHERE). And I like how this is a place where one can be open to each other (including site staff) without being reprimanded for it - in the same way as the other place we're talking about .