Isn't this what Americans fear...

[clocker]

No.

[j2k4]

Hmm.

Didn't I bring up Singapore as a positive example recently.

And wasn't I derided for doing so...by you, among others.

No.

Yes.

https://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-the...ngapore-384894

[clocker]

"Derided"?

I pointed out how inconsistent you were...a perception reinforced by this thread.

[j2k4]

I say toe-may-toe, you say toe-mah-toe...

[clocker]

No, I say Solanum lycopersicum.

I was not raised in a barn.

[pentomato]

Meaning that, in general, Thomas Sowell is a veritable fountain of weasel-words and squishy logic...which you approve of since he leans your way.

I think it's interesting that you don't seem to make room for the concept that we could do a better job of nationalized health care than Ireland.
Then again, given your underlying theme that ALL government is inept and inefficient, it's not surprising.

Please begin any response by indicating wherein lies the squishiness in my Sowell-sig before proceeding to whatever improvements in nationalized health-care you feel we may be capable of.

Do not forget to address Obama's recent admission that prior promises "allowing you to keep your current health care" have had rather large holes poked in them.

In Massachusetts we have universal health care the so call nationalized health care, your Idol Mitt Romney signed into law, and it works wonder, and yes we have the public option, people that can't afford it, the state provides it for them.
I don't think you have to go to Ireland, in Massaschusetts we have the best health system in the USA.

[j2k4]

Please begin any response by indicating wherein lies the squishiness in my Sowell-sig before proceeding to whatever improvements in nationalized health-care you feel we may be capable of.

Do not forget to address Obama's recent admission that prior promises "allowing you to keep your current health care" have had rather large holes poked in them.

In Massachusetts we have universal health care the so call nationalized health care, your Idol Mitt Romney signed into law, and it works wonder, and yes we have the public option, people that can't afford it, the state provides it for them.
I don't think you have to go to Ireland, in Massaschusetts we have the best health system in the USA.

I hear your state health care system has health problems, and apparently they don't have any mental health programs, or you'd make a bit of sense on occasion.

So Mitt gave it to you and it's great, but he still sucks, eh?

It seems to me, at least on the tiny scale of Massachusetts, that would make him a better man than B.O., in your eyes.

[pentomato]

In Massachusetts we have universal health care the so call nationalized health care, your Idol Mitt Romney signed into law, and it works wonder, and yes we have the public option, people that can't afford it, the state provides it for them.
I don't think you have to go to Ireland, in Massaschusetts we have the best health system in the USA.

I hear your state health care system has health problems, and apparently they don't have any mental health programs, or you'd make a bit of sense on occasion.

So Mitt gave it to you and it's great, but he still sucks, eh?

It seems to me, at least on the tiny scale of Massachusetts, that would make him a better man than B.O., in your eyes.

You can insult me all you want, you are not funny, your sense of humor sucks, but anyway if you need mental health, I think you do, we have the best,but please stay in the trailer park.
Mitt didn't give it to anyone, were the democratic legislators who pass that law, and it was what the people from Massachusetts wanted, so Mitt had not choice, by the way he is against it now, I wonder why?
Mitt is an idiot, he changes with the flow, he was pro choice now he is not, he was pro universal health insurance, now he is not, he decides along the way what is convenient to believe in, like every other republican.
Not in a million years will he be able to compare to Obama, he could if decided to be the man he should, but he is not.
The day that any Republican decides to stop thinking about money and be for the people, then I will be able to say he is better than Obama, but they are not and Mitt is a prick.
It was said before in this thread, I prefer the goverment to manage my health insurance, than any private company, their only concern and prority is to make as much money as possible out of my health plan, giving me the worst and less health care possible, so, if you call that socialism, let be it then, we have in Massachusetts and it works wonders, it is the best in the country, and we don't have any waiting lists.

[j2k4]

Okay, then.

Would you care to say anything else at all on the subjects of health care, Mitt Romney, and Massachusetts?

[mothis]

j2k4, even completely accepting your original point (or, at least the one raised in the article) that nationalized health care creates waste, and also accepting for the sake of argument that a privatized version has absolutely no waste at all, the conclusion that nationalized health care is therefore inferior to its privatized cousin is invalid. I would rather have some amount of waste than distribute health care only to those with sufficient means to pay arbitrarily high insurance premiums. I think the fundamental issue upon which we disagree is whether health care is a basic human right, or merely a luxury.