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    Tokeman's Avatar Ron Paul 2012 BT Rep: +30BT Rep +30BT Rep +30BT Rep +30BT Rep +30BT Rep +30
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    I love it, pirates talking about how stealing something's illegal and unethical
    Way to be guys.

  2. BitTorrent   -   #12
    thanks for all the inputs guys...i just wanted to hear your opinion, that all. You don't have to called me names and stuff....if that totally wrong..then i'm not gonna do again.
    appreciated it. Thanks

  3. BitTorrent   -   #13
    I agree with the others - it wouldn't be cool to do the pirating yourself and have your neighbor face the consequences (if applicable).

    If you're going to use his Wi-Fi for downloading, you could at least use PeerGuardian. Or a VPN, but then it'd be easier to connect to it using your real connection, unless his line is faster than yours.

    Also, if you're leeching at full speed, his surfing, etc., will be slower, and thus there'll be a chance he notices what's going on. Not to mention that if both him and you are using private trackers, you'll know what happens when the site detects two different accounts from the same IP.
    "I just remembered something that happened a long time ago."

  4. BitTorrent   -   #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokeman View Post
    I love it, pirates talking about how stealing something's illegal and unethical
    Way to be guys.
    COPYING overpriced files from bloated billion dollar record industries is very different from BREAKING INTO your neighbor's internet connection and then performing illegal activities upon it, especially when the reasoning is that it's safer for you when it could land them in a whole world of trouble.
    Quote Originally Posted by whatcdfan View Post
    u are somewhat fairer then the last occasions but still pal i give a damn to what u said and expect i really dont need anything from u or optimuscrime i get what i want coz u 2 guyes dont own bittorrent and i dont think i portrayed any image i wrote simple english and u are seems to be very good at making assumptions if someone is not a cheater and u assume he's a cheater and write what u wrote and when u are proven wrong who u think will owe an apology then barack obama????

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    Tokeman's Avatar Ron Paul 2012 BT Rep: +30BT Rep +30BT Rep +30BT Rep +30BT Rep +30BT Rep +30
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    The neighbor should be fine if he has no material on his computer, obviously he has an unsecured wireless connection.

    I'm not defending him breaking into anything, I just find it ironic that (you) people are judging him for it.

    You say its OK to steal because they (corperations) have the money and charge too much? A victimless crime so to speak?


    Stealing is stealing, and its wrong, period. Theres no grey area here.
    Last edited by Tokeman; 02-04-2010 at 05:47 PM.

  6. BitTorrent   -   #16
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    Whether it's wrong or not, you aren't stealing anything bud. If he went over to someone's house and stole some CDs, I'd say it was just as bad.
    Quote Originally Posted by whatcdfan View Post
    u are somewhat fairer then the last occasions but still pal i give a damn to what u said and expect i really dont need anything from u or optimuscrime i get what i want coz u 2 guyes dont own bittorrent and i dont think i portrayed any image i wrote simple english and u are seems to be very good at making assumptions if someone is not a cheater and u assume he's a cheater and write what u wrote and when u are proven wrong who u think will owe an apology then barack obama????

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    totaly agree with ca_aok

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    Tokeman's Avatar Ron Paul 2012 BT Rep: +30BT Rep +30BT Rep +30BT Rep +30BT Rep +30BT Rep +30
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    When you copy something, you are taking money away from the people that created it. No way around this. Money is still involved.

    Stealing is stealing, it is all wrong. You can be in denial all you want and lie to yourself if it helps you sleep at night, at least I'm honest enough with myself to know what I do is wrong.

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    'stealing' can be interpreted in so many different ways... things are not just black or white Tokeman.
    whenever people agree with me, i always feel i must be wrong.

  10. BitTorrent   -   #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokeman View Post
    When you copy something, you are taking money away from the people that created it. No way around this. Money is still involved.

    Stealing is stealing, it is all wrong. You can be in denial all you want and lie to yourself if it helps you sleep at night, at least I'm honest enough with myself to know what I do is wrong.
    Believe what you want bud, whatever helps you sleep at night. The crime you're committing is copyright infringement, or if you're running a site, perhaps conspiracy to defraud. You'll never find a filesharer being charged with theft. If you're "honest" with yourself, perhaps you should read up on exactly what you're doing.

    Also, there's no proof that every copied file is a lost sale, so your logic is erroneous. If they never would have had my money in the first place, nothing is being taken away aside from a kick to their collective egos. And based on the size of my CD and LP collection I'd say I probably contribute a hell of a lot more to those corporations than many who don't pirate

    By your logic we should all be out there robbing banks and stealing cars, since hey, it's all theft right? Do you disagree?

    'stealing' can be interpreted in so many different ways... things are not just black or white Tokeman.
    Last edited by ca_aok; 02-04-2010 at 06:19 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by whatcdfan View Post
    u are somewhat fairer then the last occasions but still pal i give a damn to what u said and expect i really dont need anything from u or optimuscrime i get what i want coz u 2 guyes dont own bittorrent and i dont think i portrayed any image i wrote simple english and u are seems to be very good at making assumptions if someone is not a cheater and u assume he's a cheater and write what u wrote and when u are proven wrong who u think will owe an apology then barack obama????

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