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    Tokeman's Avatar Ron Paul 2012 BT Rep: +30BT Rep +30BT Rep +30BT Rep +30BT Rep +30BT Rep +30
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    Ok, In My Opinion, its stealing. Don't really need to debate it. Was just pointing out that it was ironic that people who don't pay for things were judging some one for stealing.
    You guys can go about your filesharing now with no guilt.

    So, you've never dl'd something that you would have bought if filesharing didn't exist? I find that hard to believe... I can follow that logic for things like photoshop or some huge thing, but movies, music? C'mon.. get real.
    Last edited by Tokeman; 02-04-2010 at 06:20 PM.

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    Actually no. If I download it and like it, I generally go out and buy it. At last count I had ~300CDs and ~50LPs, in addition to various movies/TV shows on DVD or Bluray. So I'd say I've given those bastards plenty of my money. What I personally think needs to happen is they need to improve upon Spotify's current model for music, which is a great idea (unlimited music streaming for a monthly fee). TV shows are already getting the message by releasing full, ad supported episodes online for free, which I think is a great initiative on their part. The stubborn companies need to react to the realities of the digital age of distribution, and figure out ways to capitalize on downloading. Trying to add more and more DRM to the formats clearly doesn't work (see: sales of PS3 consoles v.s. XBOX360 despite the 360 being crackable, the failure of the SACD to integrate itself into the mainstream, etc).

    I can tell you right now if CDs were $2-5 I'd probably never pirate again. Instead, they're often around $20, which is a lot to pay for crap you've never listened to before. Most of this is bloat money devoted to the bonuses of rich executives. They're worried because due to internet distribution, artists no longer need major record labels to make money. Many artists, especially smaller ones, sell their albums themselves through their website, cutting out the middle man. They can use sites like last.fm to advertise, or release their first album to a torrent site as bands often do on What/Waffles to gain a following. The record companies are worried that now that big names like Radiohead and Nine Inch Nails have been eschewing traditional distribution methods, soon they'll be edged out of the music business all together.
    Quote Originally Posted by whatcdfan View Post
    u are somewhat fairer then the last occasions but still pal i give a damn to what u said and expect i really dont need anything from u or optimuscrime i get what i want coz u 2 guyes dont own bittorrent and i dont think i portrayed any image i wrote simple english and u are seems to be very good at making assumptions if someone is not a cheater and u assume he's a cheater and write what u wrote and when u are proven wrong who u think will owe an apology then barack obama????

  3. BitTorrent   -   #23
    Do your neighbors know? I mean, you could get them in trouble...

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    It's not about the justification of file sharing, it's about normal ethics
    I find what Tokeman has said really strange, for example.. if someone is stealing money, does that mean he doesn't have morals and ethics regarding killing another human?
    if you download and, according to you, steal copyrighted material, does that ban you from the right of expressing your morality?
    Doing something bad, and balming others for it, are different things..
    go ahead, steal , download, do whatever you want.. you might get caught and that will get you in the end, but don't blame other people for it.

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    That isn't what I meant or said, I was simply comparing (what I considered) stealing to stealing. I just found it ironic that (what I consider) theifs were judging some one for stealing wireless. I also said that I was not defending what was obviously an action that was wrong, morally and legally (IMO), by stealing wireless to torrent. Obviously i have a different opinion on what stealing is, but that aside, is what I meant.
    Hope that clears up what I said before.

    Edit: I asked a few people in RL about this topic, and weather they saw the irony I did, which was why I made my inital post, it was ironic, and I found it ammusing. They all agreed that it was indeed ironic. So, it seems my point is not getting accross due to the internet I suppose. I mearly posted my initial response due to the irony, nothing more, nothing less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KontrAdictioN View Post
    Sup guys, i got a question..

    I'm accessing the internet via my neighbor network and using bittorrent to download stuffs into my laptop. After it done, i disconnected and connected to mine network. I know it is not 100% proof to anything, but is that safer than using your own network? I'm not using peer guardian or anything.

    thank you for comment.
    I may be a pirate like many others, but their's a line you don't cross...Call It the pirate code If you like.
    But people like you are parasites...Full Stop
    Last edited by LubTheStaringCat; 02-04-2010 at 10:14 PM.

  7. BitTorrent   -   #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by ca_aok View Post
    Actually no. If I download it and like it, I generally go out and buy it. At last count I had ~300CDs and ~50LPs, in addition to various movies/TV shows on DVD or Bluray. So I'd say I've given those bastards plenty of my money. What I personally think needs to happen is they need to improve upon Spotify's current model for music, which is a great idea (unlimited music streaming for a monthly fee). TV shows are already getting the message by releasing full, ad supported episodes online for free, which I think is a great initiative on their part. The stubborn companies need to react to the realities of the digital age of distribution, and figure out ways to capitalize on downloading. Trying to add more and more DRM to the formats clearly doesn't work (see: sales of PS3 consoles v.s. XBOX360 despite the 360 being crackable, the failure of the SACD to integrate itself into the mainstream, etc).

    I can tell you right now if CDs were $2-5 I'd probably never pirate again. Instead, they're often around $20, which is a lot to pay for crap you've never listened to before. Most of this is bloat money devoted to the bonuses of rich executives. They're worried because due to internet distribution, artists no longer need major record labels to make money. Many artists, especially smaller ones, sell their albums themselves through their website, cutting out the middle man. They can use sites like last.fm to advertise, or release their first album to a torrent site as bands often do on What/Waffles to gain a following. The record companies are worried that now that big names like Radiohead and Nine Inch Nails have been eschewing traditional distribution methods, soon they'll be edged out of the music business all together.
    Hi!
    Spotify is not available in my country...why??
    have found tv243.com a great free alternative for online streaming, it shuffles music videos from youtube,vevo...not only yhe songs
    Last edited by IdolEyes787; 02-05-2010 at 03:24 PM.

  8. BitTorrent   -   #28
    Quote Originally Posted by tchiky View Post
    Spotify is not available in my country...why??
    Licensing restrictions. If you want a good streaming service with no country limitations try Grooveshark. I found it better than Spotify.
    "I just remembered something that happened a long time ago."

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