Torrenting - Is the end getting closer ?

[P2PDog]

I don't know if torrenting is headed for death, but I do think that it's in a very steep downward spiral. I used to believe that the traders/cheaters/sellers/collectors were the problem with BT, but in reality, they're just a symptom of a broken system that encourages and allows them to do those things.

BT is supposed to be about sharing files, and having a bit of fun socializing while doing it. A LOT of people seem to have forgotten that.

[IdolEyes787]

apextwin146 I wish i was as cool as you...

Anyway, all the action is going here.

^^ This post made my fucking day, thanks b3owulf...




Please disable my account

In an attempt to meet senseless with sense..... if you don't like the board just stop using your account.
It's not like you're Nelson Mandela and making a political statement or anything.

[l33tpirata13]

No. BT takes a heavy toll on the ISPs infrastructures. Hence all the conversation about traffic shaping and download limits. And it doesn't stop growing.
If it will collapse, it will be due to the ISPs closing the tap.

here in the states, isp's have tried on many occasions to step up security to stop the "tapping" into their lines. Hasnt worked yet, im still here. Even in the areas newly implemented, security measures have been compromised within days.

[A]

I use Rapidshare a lot.90%.Rest 10% I use 2 trackers What.CD and Animebyt.es.Sadly both need seedbox meh.Also if Karagara didnt have such a hard to seed system,I also would have used that too.Thinking of getting into Newsgroups since It makes much more sense than rapidshare.Giganews or Astraweb?Any suggestions?
Also the newly launched BTN looks promising.Ratio less trackers are always an attraction.hehe.

That doesn't mean I use that protocol too often. I was dumb enough to have rented seedboxes in the past and donated to sites who were not worthy. I spent my fair amount of time involved deep in that "bt economy".
I just took a breath and thought: what the fuck is this? Is this any worth? My time and my money? No.

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w00t another top Troll for FST,thizzkid .
hope you dont quote that

[ca_aok]

No. BT takes a heavy toll on the ISPs infrastructures. Hence all the conversation about traffic shaping and download limits. And it doesn't stop growing.
If it will collapse, it will be due to the ISPs closing the tap.

here in the states, isp's have tried on many occasions to step up security to stop the "tapping" into their lines. Hasnt worked yet, im still here. Even in the areas newly implemented, security measures have been compromised within days.

Actually it worked fine, it was called "sandvine". Luckily that was declared unethical by the FCC and Comcast were forced to stop.

[Tokeman]

BT will be around until all the countries agree to outlaw the sites, and webhosts just stop allowing them to exist. Even then, sites could still be put up under the guise of a mail site or any site with a member logon. BT will be around for many years to come, not much anyone can do about it in the short term.

[Quarterquack]

This thread is the perfect example of what's wrong with the BT World.

1) Up from the top, thizzkid is 100% right in everything he said, I just don't understand why people think it's so cool nowadays to hate on a protocol that's been on the drawing boards before they were born. The problem is, bittorrent, according to recent statistics, could account for upto 55% of all INTERNET TRAFFIC. Just hating something based one side of it is ridiculous. All communities/protocols have their ups and their downs, and half the people that "prefer" a different protocol are yet to experience its negative side as well.

There's not that many efficient, fast and community based protocols out there. I've been file sharing for as long as I remember, but I also know enough law to never get into a court over it.

Topsites? It's just paying for leech spots, newsgroups are better, at least they don't record your IP. Newsgroups? Expensive crap. I mean, no offense, I understand some people's fascination with it, but if you're going to pay to file SHARE, you have the wrong picture. Go to the store and buy it. Learn how to take the DRM off yourself, or even contact the company to remove it for you and offer you a license. Not that hard, a lot of companies I've worked at have obtained DRM-Free licensing on media and even protection-less industry grade programs.

DC Hubs? mIRC-based groups? There's a reason those two are nearly obsolete. They're slow, they're bogged down, they're unreliable, and politics play a more precarious part than even the most power hungry torrent website admins. I can't even remember how many times I had to follow my favorite DC community around because we kept getting hacked/shut down.

Whether you like it or not, Bittorrent is the only reliable AND optionally free protocol out there. If you're a friendly person, a million ratio-free, laid back tracker staff will take you in anywhere you want.

2) The community. When ScT shut down, within thirty minutes of the 48 hour announcement there were hundreds of people on the IRC trading. Personally? I don't see anything wrong with trading. Except, when it's done with the intention of gaining something. That's unfortunately where the bad community comes in. What I know is that trading only kills trackers because it's an endless cycle. Accounts on BitMeTV for example are traded 3-4 times, and then the cycle keeps going on. None of the people use it, they just use it as a stepping stone. And that's the issue, the hierarchy is what's killing the protocol. I remember being called an idealist on BCG when I insulted someone by saying that because he doesn't seed back on public trackers, he's killing torrenting, and I meant every word of it. There's no point to being on torrents if all someone will do is leech, go back to DCHubs for that. People automatically assume that "lower level trackers" are disposable, and constantly strive to get into the higher levels. That is hurting the protocol, and the community as a whole.

3) The people who constantly want BT to die. I mean GOD, if you hate the damn thing so much, stop browsing dang forums related to it. This applies to nearly everyone in this thread. If BT accounts for less than 5% of your downloads, fine, but your forum activity should also resemble that figure. The people on private trackers that keep screaming "This tracker is going to die" then why the fuck are you even there? It's simple you're there because you think it's entertaining watching something strive to succeed.

I guess my main point is the community is killing BT. All the silly rules, all the ridiculous hierarchical systems in place, all the lamers that want it to die without understanding how much the world would end up losing on such a successful protocol.

FST is the bigger picture. FST is a proper representation. Many a times I meet someone absolutely polite and pleasant on a "high level tracker" and they end up explaining how influential they are on FST. This place does serve an ego of its own, and the beauty is, people here are unafraid of showing it off, because they're hidden behind a random pseudonym. As the old quote goes, "Give a man a mask, and he will tell you who he is." The same applies here at FST, hidden behind proxies, behind random aliases, everyone behaves as themselves, and shows off their true e-penis, this place shows exactly what's killing BT. It's the people that want it to die, it's the same people who are trading, it's the same people who don't understand what file SHARING is, and are in it for as long as the boat is sailing, but will bail out given the chance.

I realize I might have seemed hostile, but none of what I said is meant to be offensive.

[antrax34130]

"Topsites? It's just paying for leech spots" False...

[Quarterquack]

It is true. What other ways to get into topsites are there? Being part of a group and working your bum off, while risking your safety? Starting a network with donations to get it going and hope you're successful? Donating hardware that costs money? Being a source? Being a leak?

Please, everything has its merits and it's weak points, no system is perfect, neither is BT. But to WANT BT to die without realizing what it is is sheer stupidity.

By the way, if BT ever dies, kiss the best top-sites goodbye. They are after all funded by "top site" donations, most of the time.

[antrax34130]

there are friend status (no need to pay) ....and you talk about crappy topsites not "true topsites"

if BT ever dies, kiss the best top-sites goodbye.