The New Improvements of uTorrent 2.0 (Final)

[anon]

Come on anon-sbi this could be good for you

And I have found no evidence of uTP (which has been there since uTorrent 1.8) giving faster peers priority myself, that's why I'm asking.

[Rart]

The least you could do is cite the source when you copy and paste something

Source:

http://extratorrent.com/article/245/...t+2+final.html

Also, One thing I was curious of:

I remember reading this article here: https://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-new...g-375275/page2 , and in many places UT 2.0 was very poorly received for the many connotations that there would be heavy throttling to accommodate this new fangled "uTP" feature. However, it seems like that has mostly subdued now. Did they change something or alter their plan from what was originally said in that article? I haven't upgraded yet for this reason.

[anon]

Also, One thing I was curious of:

I remember reading this article here: https://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-new...g-375275/page2 , and in many places UT 2.0 was very poorly received for the many connotations that there would be heavy throttling to accommodate this new fangled "uTP" feature. However, it seems like that has mostly subdued now.

TCP traffic is easy to inspect and throttle accordingly because due to its "safe" nature, shaping devices can clearly see when a connection is initiated, the handshake, and "take it from there".

UDP, in turn, is unreliable - you simply start throwing data to the remote host and hope he'll receive it correctly, because there's no error control at the protocol level. (Although it works fine in practice, actually) ISPs can't throttle uTP without also affecting all other UDP network traffic (VoIP, online gaming, etc.). Nobody will want to pay for a provider that won't even let you talk or play games.

[Rart]

I'm not exactly sure if you understood my post, but I meant throttling from utorrent's side, not the ISP's.

Here was a quote from the article that made many others (and me) wary of this new version:

With uTP, uTorrent (and the Mainline client) will become network aware by throttling itself if congestion in the network is detected. This will have a huge impact on ISP networks according to Simon Morris, BitTorrent’s VP of Product Management. “If uTP is successful it should result in a multi-billion dollar windfall in terms of savings for ISPs,” Morris told TorrentFreak

This means that the new uTorrent will eliminate the need for ISPs to throttle BitTorrent traffic in their networks. Of course, uTorrent users will also be affected by the new protocol. When needed, uTorrent will decrease the upload or download speed to avoid congestion.

According to Morris it’s mainly the upload speed that will be affected. “The throttling that matters most is actually not so much the download but rather the upload – as bandwidth is normally much lower UP than DOWN, the up-link will almost always get congested before the down-link does,” he explained.

Have these issues been addressed in someway that decreased the uproar over 2.0? I don't really see anyone complaining about this anymore.

And as a side note, Morris mentions that it's "only the upload" that will be affected. If the upload is throttled, doesn't that ultimately lead to slower download speeds as well?

[ceo54]

The least you could do is cite the source when you copy and paste something

Source:

http://extratorrent.com/article/245/...t+2+final.html

Well Said
i am too stuck at 1.8.1 like many others i wanted to know what u people think abt this before considering An Update

[kurdt]

Come on anon-sbi this could be good for you

And I have found no evidence of uTP (which has been there since uTorrent 1.8) giving faster peers priority myself, that's why I'm asking.

"uTP has been improved significantly since 1.8.5, with many bugs fixed and performance improvements."

source: http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=65482

so it may be a much different UTP than what has been there sine UT 1.8.

[iLOVENZB]

Too bad heaps of trackers haven't added this client to their white list. IPT, AL and I think TV just to name a few.

[anon]

I'm not exactly sure if you understood my post, but I meant throttling from utorrent's side, not the ISP's.

... I don't really see anyone complaining about this anymore.

Oh, I see. I did misunderstand you, then. But what you're mentioning about uTorrent is actually a good thing - torrenting traffic will automatically adjust its speeds depending on what the rest of your programs are doing. Meaning you can max out your upload without making surfing lag, for example, even if you haven't limited your upload speed. And when you aren't doing anything else with your PC, the client will know this and maximize uploading.

To give a rough example, say you're seeding a full speed without uTP and want to check your e-mail or browse this forum. They should load very slowly, because your connection works like a "pipe" - lots of upload going one way prevents your download from coming fast. In this case you'd reduce your upload speed limit as you send your mail or read the new threads, and put it back how it was before when you're done. uTP does exactly the same thing, just transparently.

And as a side note, Morris mentions that it's "only the upload" that will be affected. If the upload is throttled, doesn't that ultimately lead to slower download speeds as well?

Maybe so, but the impact shouldn't be noticeable unless you have a very slow upload speed or another application is claiming most of it - and I think you should stop your torrents if you're going to use your upload for something else in the first place.

"uTP has been improved significantly since 1.8.5, with many bugs fixed and performance improvements."

source: http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=65482

so it may be a much different UTP than what has been there sine UT 1.8.

You have a point there, but looking at the changelog it's mostly bugfixes and performance improvements. Until someone shows actual proof the new uTP favors high-speed peers, I won't believe it.

[ca_aok]

Personally I'll stick with 1.8.2 in case some of the rumoured issues are fixed and until it's whitelisted everywhere. There are very few reasons to keep a client as stable as uTorrent up to date when you're simply adding more bugs to the mix.

[2jonathan]

thanks for the news. Time to update the client then=)