English Teams In Europe

[J'Pol]

I have no particularly strong views on this subject.

I can take it or leave it.

[Billy_Dean]

Originally posted by Lamsey+21 October 2003 - 04:51--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lamsey @ 21 October 2003 - 04:51)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Billy_Dean@20 October 2003 - 10:24
Just what do you hate?&nbsp; The name? The colour of their shirts?&nbsp; Their success?

In Man. Utd.&#39;s case, the arrogance and the unpleasant nature of their manager. [/b][/quote]
What a childish reason&#33;

[Lamsey]

Originally posted by Billy_Dean@20 October 2003 - 19:57
What a childish reason&#33;

Shit stirrer

How apt.

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by Billy_Dean+20 October 2003 - 20:57--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Billy_Dean @ 20 October 2003 - 20:57)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by Lamsey@21 October 2003 - 04:51
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@20 October 2003 - 10:24
Just what do you hate? The name? The colour of their shirts? Their success?

In Man. Utd.&#39;s case, the arrogance and the unpleasant nature of their manager.

What a childish reason&#33;


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He also played for Rangers, as you will well know. That&#39;s bad enough.

Seriously tho&#39; I would be supporting Manchester United whoever they were playing. Other than Celtic obviously.

They have historically had links with Celtic. Often the teams will use each other for testimonial matches, foreign tours etc. The fans also seem to get along quite well. The fact that they are playing Rangers is just a bonus for me.

[Billy_Dean]

Celtic and Man U are both Catholic teams JP.

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Rangers, as you will well know. That&#39;s bad enough.

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by Billy_Dean@20 October 2003 - 21:24
Celtic and Man U are both Catholic teams JP.

Not at all.

I am sure you are well aware of Manchester United&#39;s background, I don&#39;t see how you would say that. Given that Ferguson for one was a Rangers player, at the time when it was Protestant only. If anything that would naturally predispose me not to support them.

I had always thought that if there were a "Catholic" team in Manchester it was City. I am sure you, or others will enlighten me, but that is what I was told.

With regard to Celtic, read the history. I am not aware of their ever having been a sectarian policy with regard to players or management. Indeed at it&#39;s outset, when Rangers were Protestant only, they wanted anyone to be able to play. Regardless of background.

Look at the greatest Celtic Team of all, the Lisbon Lions. Far from being a "Catholic" Team.

If you are suggesting that it is a Catholic support, then again I can&#39;t agree. I know a lot of Celtic Supporters who are non-Catholic. Indeed they now have a large Asian following. I am told, but cannot confirm this, that it is because they play in green.

Ask Hypoluxa, on second thoughts maybe not.

So, I&#39;m afraid your argument is old-fashioned and specious, at least with regard to the Celtic part. You can maybe enlighten me with regard to the Man Utd, situation.

[Billy_Dean]

I meant historically JP, at one time you couldn&#39;t play for Man U if you weren&#39;t catholic. Which is why they have had so many Scottish and Irish players over the years, what their policy is now, I don&#39;t know. The same goes for Liverpool, catholic, Everton protestant, it was rife in British football at one time.




Edit: Just found this, still looking ...

Hallowed Be Our Name

[Billy_Dean]

I found this too ...

For example, in Manchester, Liverpool and Glasgow, rival clubs began to be identified as a result of emigrant following as &#39;Protestant&#39; or &#39;Catholic&#39; clubs. For the record, Liverpool, Celtic and Manchester United were the &#39;Catholic&#39; clubs; Everton, Glasgow Rangers and Manchester City were the &#39;Protestant&#39; clubs.

Sunday Business Post

[J'Pol]

Billy, thanks for that, genuinely.

With regard to Liverpool, I was also under the impression that it was Everton who were the "Catholic" Club and Liverpool the "Protestant" Club.

I was told this by someone from Liverpool. An Everton supporter as it happens.

It would appear that I could not have been more wrong. One lives and learns. Tho&#39; I have to say and this is genuine, that after Manchester United I would have supported Liverpool.

Do you think it is a genetic thing ?