Innocence

[clocker]

Hobbes, did you just read Waiting for Godot?

[Lamsey]

Originally posted by zinc1@23 October 2003 - 10:45
OH REALLY,HOW LOUD WERE THEY IN YOUR DAYS THEN ??

Yes please, milk and two sugars.

[oldmancan]

The First Great Truth of Buddha ... Life is Suffering.

peace omc

[Twist3r]

Kurt Cobain said it best

I will move away from here
You won't be afraid of fear

No thought was put into this
Always knew it would come to this

[Yogi]

Hobbes:

As children, Santa Clause is real, the Easter Bunny is real, magic is magic.

As we grow older, we understand the deception or facade of these mysterious realms.

We understand romance, we understand sex, we understand relationships.

At some point, all that is has been unexplained in the world, as magic or devine is revealed to be a farce.

At some point, we crave some new magic, some new hope. It simply does not exist. Alas.

Even those corporial enties such as "true love" and such are exposed. Living in reality sucks, being stupid ceratinly has it merits.

Oh, poor Hobbes, your craving will be heard some day........

Whatever. Are you 19 or something?

We have all believed at some point. I was "in love" so many times before the age of 25.
Idiots and the average will believe what they have been told for their entire lives. I long to have a closed head injury!Call us back in 10 years.

I think that injury is allready there........

The concept that you can see someone, fall "in love" and live happily ever after is just simple shit.....The best you can hope for is to find a good friend.. Love seems to imply sexual arousal and such, that is a poor lead to follow......The concept of "true love" as I understood it as a child, and what constitutes a a happy marraige, are so far divergent as to be unrelated.
Men and women have such different urges that "sex" is an unfortunate common ground. The word and its implication are totally different between the genders.

You talk in general.....
When the issue is you........
http://www.newselfimage.com/indexnew.shtml
(though i think you're fooling us all and you are sooo happy, you only can handle it by posting the sh*** you do..... )

True love is all around you.
To really get a grasp of that you'll have to start out with loving yourself.....

I used to blame the whole world of deception
I've seen that road
Paved with selfpity and remorse
but, hey, you can abandon that
come off that high-horse filled with pain
and try a little slice of happiness
really, there's enough for everyone
and if you really try
it will sustain






Yogi Mashnipranti

[hobbes]

How am I the issue? Your post is nothing but a flame, based on false assumptions.
On what fact do you base your conclusions about my life?

I post my observations. Could you please explain how you determined that I was the problem, or had the problem other than my views do not coincide with yours.

At any rate, you see me as troubled, and your goal is to take playgroundesque snipe shots. I attacked no one, my statements were generalizations based on my observations and experiences to date.

I blame no one, could you show me where I blamed anyone for my point of view.
Love myself? Well I certainly feel that I have had a better shake than the average person. I have a good job, get along well with my parents, I'm in good physical health, and I have had enough relationships with females to know what I am talking about.


Telling someone to "Love oneself" is a platitude.

I have no bitterness, no self pity or remorse. I really apologize for not conveniently fitting into the box you wanted to place me in, but I have never been an "in the box" type.

I stand outside conventional thought, and I view the world with my own vision. I mean, why are you so focused on "pot", why do you need it? It is fun to escape the mundaness of the world, no?

I always welcome and consider constructive input, but making false assumptions about who I am and certainly having no context (my hundreds of other posts in this forum) in which to view this thread, I come up with nothing from your post.

[Billy_Dean]

Originally posted by nigel123@23 October 2003 - 23:53
.... Sometimes the sun shines and sometimes it's cloudy. ...

You mean there are places where it isn't sunny all day??

I'll have to get out of Cairns more.

PS. I've always found young Hobbes to be an enigma, which is how it should be, surely.

[chalice]

LOVE, WE MUST PART NOW BY PHILIP LARKIN

Love, we must part now: do not let it be
Calamitious and bitter. In the past
There has been too much moonlight and self-pity:
Let us have done with it: for now at last
Never has sun more boldly paced the sky,
Never were hearts more eager to be free,
To kick down worlds, lash forests; you and I
No longer hold them; we are husks, that see
The grain going forward to a different use.
There is regret. Always, there is regret.
But it is better that our lives unloose,
As two tall ships, wind-mastered, wet with light,
Break from an estuary with their courses set,
And waving part, and waving drop from sight.

[Yogi]

How am I the issue?

I can be wrong, but didn't you write what i quoted.....???

Your post is nothing but a flame, based on false assumptions.
On what fact do you base your conclusions about my life?

Where do i flame?
Assuming is all i can, based on what you are writing.
And as for conclusions; i'll leave that up to you.........

I post my observations

And so do i......

Could you please explain how you determined that I was the problem, or had the problem other than my views do not coincide with yours.

Can't remember using the word "problem".
You wrote down some assumptions, distilled from your experience, as were they facts, where they do apply on you.....

At any rate, you see me as troubled, and your goal is to take playgroundesque snipe shots. I attacked no one, my statements were generalizations based on my observations and experiences to date.

See above. You generalize what is in fact yours.

I blame no one, could you show me where I blamed anyone for my point of view.

No. Why should i?
I don't blame you aswell for your views, but that doesn't mean i can't have an opinion on that; based on my experiences.......

Love myself? Well I certainly feel that I have had a better shake than the average person. I have a good job, get along well with my parents, I'm in good physical health, and I have had enough relationships with females to know what I am talking about.

Good for you!!

Telling someone to "Love oneself" is a platitude.

Wonder how that became a platitude..........

I have no bitterness, no self pity or remorse. I really apologize for not conveniently fitting into the box you wanted to place me in, but I have never been an "in the box" type.

Ehhh??? Sorry, but i think i lose you here.......
Your "observations" seem full of them, even though you generalize them........
And, sorry, but i hate boxes......
If someone placed you there, who would that be...??

I stand outside conventional thought, and I view the world with my own vision. I mean, why are you so focused on "pot", why do you need it? It is fun to escape the mundaness of the world, no?

I don't need it. I like it. Just as sex, food, this board, etc.
Do i taste "countering" here.????
Sorry, but my world is far from mundane.........

I always welcome and consider constructive input, but making false assumptions about who I am and certainly having no context (my hundreds of other posts in this forum) in which to view this thread, I come up with nothing from your post.

Okay. No probs with that.
But your reply states something else......

Yogi

[J'Pol]

Hobbes

Do you have a sense that your life and the life of everyone else is ultimately futile.

No love, no magic, just a finite existance then nothing.

You are born, you do stuff, you own things, you die.

The end.

That would depress the arse off of me as well.