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    http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/...mategate-data/

    No response needed, although all of you anti-Foxnews people won't be able to resist, I'm sure.

    This story probably won't appear elsewhere, 'cuz it doesn't square with global-warming fans.

    Tell you what:

    5 cyber-bucks to anyone who finds non-Foxnews linkage...
    "Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."

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    "Global warming fans" implies that belief is a matter of choice instead of science/fact.
    Given that Fox News only recently came around to the idea of a round earth, their skepticism does not surprise me.

    The story may not appear anywhere else because it is meaningless to anyone with a normal head/rectum arrangement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clocker View Post
    it is meaningless to anyone with a normal head/rectum arrangement.
    In years to come that will be placed alongside great quotes from Gandhi, Churchill or Confucius
    Last edited by devilsadvocate; 03-30-2010 at 10:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clocker View Post
    "Global warming fans" implies that belief is a matter of choice instead of science/fact.
    Given that Fox News only recently came around to the idea of a round earth, their skepticism does not surprise me.

    The story may not appear anywhere else because it is meaningless to anyone with a normal head/rectum arrangement.
    The "science/fact" you refer to is the precise body of quasi-evidence whence comes the entire "conclusion" of man-made global-warming.

    It has taken a fatal beating recently, and this latest is just a capper.

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    it is meaningless to anyone with a normal head/rectum arrangement.
    In years to come that will be placed alongside great quotes from Gandhi, Churchill or Confucius
    That is, beyond a shadow of doubt, the greatest feat of overt ass-kissing in the entire history of this board.

    Well done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    The "science/fact" you refer to is the precise body of quasi-evidence whence comes the entire "conclusion" of man-made global-warming.

    It has taken a fatal beating recently, and this latest is just a capper.
    How is it that a man from the eighteenth century manages to post on the internet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by clocker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    The "science/fact" you refer to is the precise body of quasi-evidence whence comes the entire "conclusion" of man-made global-warming.

    It has taken a fatal beating recently, and this latest is just a capper.
    How is it that a man from the eighteenth century manages to post on the internet?
    Don't know; ask that guy kneeling behind you.

    Here's a question:

    How did you become so irretrievably enamored of the idea of Global Warming and, in turn, the idea that Man's purported role in it out-weighs that of Mother Nature?
    "Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."

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    How is it that a man from the eighteenth century manages to post on the internet?
    Forward thinking.
    The best way to keep a secret:- Tell everyone not to tell anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    How did you become so irretrievably enamored of the idea of Global Warming
    Pretty much the same way I became "enamored" with the concept that 2 + 2 = 4...scientific evidence.
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    and, in turn, the idea that Man's purported role in it out-weighs that of Mother Nature?
    Because the body of scientific evidence overwhelmingly supports it.

    Seems to me the nub of the question comes down to "What if I'm wrong?".
    If I'm wrong, we end up with a cleaner environment, widespread use of sustainable alternative energy and continuation of life more-or-less as we know it.

    If you're wrong, we're fucked.
    Jesus had better ride in on his T-rex and rapture our asses outta here...which seems to be your plan for the future, a plan that neatly relieves you of any responsibility to act.

    You are apparently comfortable taking a "let's wait and see" posture, I am not.
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    You are entirely wrong as to my stance on the matter.

    I believe we should use our resources wisely and, um, conservatively.

    Waste no, want not, to the nth degree.

    I do not believe we should be silly about it unto bankrupting ourselves and ruining our economy.

    It's just that simple; I don't buy the guilt trip that is designed entirely for the purpose of prying open our wallets, while ignoring the excesses of India and China.
    "Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."

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    We are already bankrupt and our economy is crap...rebuilding on a more sustainable platform would not be so terribly disruptive.

    You say "guilt trip", I say "responsible foresight".
    Why is our national behavior to be dictated by that of India or China?
    Have they become the ideal to which we aspire?

    If China and India jumped off a cliff, would you follow suit?
    "I am the one who knocks."- Heisenberg

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