PassThePopcorn or PassTheChildPorn

[deependx]

Azazel needs to stop being an attention whore and trying to make members of PassThePopcorn scared from using the site only because a "founder" who is now disabled and banned from the site posted links from a *chan site into a skype chat.

To Azazel: Would you stop trying to put PassThePopcorn & me and z down?? Spektormax is dealt with and we aren't done yet. You don't know what actions we are taking BECAUSE YOU WONT TALK TO US!! You said a few lines to me a ceased to talk to me on IRC, deleted your facebook and quit Skype. Stop trying to bash us the staff at PTP. This is an isolated incident of Spektormax and we got effed over for being in that chat. Not to mention I lost a great friend (you) because an asshole posted links in a skype chat I happened to be in. We didn't ask for anything all of a sudden he posted the links and as everyone has made it clear by now we told him to stop.

If anyone is to blame is Azazel for being such a pu**y and crying to every forum possible that PTP condones child porn when we do NOT, instead of talking to the people in the chat. Literally he told me "do not PM me anymore".

To all of you who want PTP taken down or accounts deleted stop being attention whores. PassThePopcorn has NOTHING to do with this. Spektormax is sick in the head. Go report him, we don't care he has nothing to do with us anymore.

-eXodusSquared

[glados]

you guys keep bringing up Azazel; fact of the matter is, no one cares about Azazel and why he's doing it. people are concerned about what he brought to the table, not why he's done so, which again is irrelevant.

As I know you do not live in the USA you may not be aware of how exactly CP laws here operate. Nothing SpektorMax did in that Skype conversation was illegal, and there is no basis to report him to the FBI despite the fact that the entire reason you are running this smear campaign is because z and exodussquard took no action, when there is no action that they could have taken except to report the images to teh staff of 510chan.

This is where you're wrong.

Spektormax has willingly shared links to images of child porn; this act by itself is strictly illegal in the US, and is actually a criminal offense (rather than downloading copyrighted material, which would be a civil offense); so the cops/FBI may very well be involved in this cyber crime. Distributing links to child porn via instant messaging services such as Skype is indeed a cyber crime in the USA.

If Azazel or anyone would like to take a step further against Spektormax's actions, you may contact Skype with the presented evidence, also report the cyber crime to the appropriate authorities http://www.justice.gov/criminal/cybe.../reporting.htm

Since Spektormax was stupid enough to post those links in a Skype convo, everything is logged over at Skype and the investigation will most definitely lead to his arrest. All of his internet activity will of course be investigated, which will involve PassThePopcorn, which he is/was the founder of.

This is why I'm saying that PassThePopcorn is obviously EXTREMELY insecure at the moment. If an official investigation is held, PTP will be investigated, members/emails/IPs will be taken by the authorities for evidence as the site might be linked to those child porn activities (considering that the links were posted in a conversation with PTP sysops/staff).

[DWCreeper167]

To clarify things even more which is pathetic that I even have to do this.

The chat logs between myself and z and with exodussquared showed that I tried to get something done on PTP. Neither would do anything and neither cared. It was fully in z's and exodussquared's power to ban him from the site then and there but that didn't happen, they continued talking to him.

I wasn't demoted/kicked off or even banned from PTP by any of the staff. I was fed up with the power abuse that was going on there and I demoted and banned my Azazel account. I still used my KingArthur account for downloading. As can be clearly seen from the chat logs, I told both z and exodussquared that I wanted all of my accounts deleted from PTP. So who is running the smear campaign now?

The skype convo was PTP related. The whole reason we were in there was to work on RC2 since z asked for my help and max was there for coding.

I find it so disgusting that one of the owners of PTP posted child porn, the sysops did NOTHING even after being PM'd by me about this and now instead of just getting rid of him and being done with you, you try to lie about me and tarnish my name. Guess what? I don't care about my rep or anything else but I won't have you(PTP) try to act like I went about this the wrong way as some sort of vendetta.

Up untill this point, I had nothing against PTP or any of the staff obviously which is why I was in PTP irc and helping to work on the new dev site, ptp.v2.

Supposidly spektormax is banned now but that doesn't count for his dupe accounts and his server access. IMO, showing he's banned is just an act to try and alleviate some of the tension with word getting around. Why when this happened last night did it take untill now to ban him??

Staff here have removed the skype chat pic I showed because it contained the links to the pics and z and exodussquareds' possible real names but I see no reason why the chat logs between myself and these 2 shouldn't be allowed.

[Kate28]

You need to back down. You know fully well that you are doing this to ruin the site which had nothing to do with this.
Azazel, I'm sorry you were offended, we all are. His actions are his alone and we do not condone them.
He has NO access to the site. Period. We have cut all ties and are not defending his actions.
You wait on sites for an exploit and then you pounce. You have a power trip issue and it is evident in this thread. You yourself could have 'taken it to proper authorities' but instead you made the choice to blast this over the internet, to involve more people, and to draw more attention to the cp.
You need to realize the gravity of the situation and let it go. It has been dealt with.
Multiple staff members have come in here to describe and explain the situation yet still Azazel is oblivious to reason.
It needs to end. The issues you have are with spektormax and that is who you need to deal with. Stop involving innocent parties in your feuding.

[DWCreeper167]

Have any of you(ptp) passed on his personal details to the proper authorities? Kate, I know you are good friends with spektormax, you talk to him on the phone almost daily.

Amoung you guys you have the power to really do something about this. Contacting skype with nothing more than a screen name will do little. Handing over logs + his personal phone number and address could do alot.

I'm hoping that even if z won't do anything that you will Kate, regardless of your friendship with spektormax.

[Kate28]

Have any of you(ptp) passed on his personal details to the proper authorities? Kate, I know you are good friends with spektormax, you talk to him on the phone almost daily.

Amoung you guys you have the power to really do something about this. Contacting skype with nothing more than a screen name will do little. Handing over logs + his personal phone number and address could do alot.

I'm hoping that even if z won't do anything that you will Kate, regardless of your friendship with spektormax.

It's beyond petty you are using that tactic. I have not associated with him in over a year and over this all ties have been cut.
The situation has been dealt with. Please take your qualms to spektormax as it is solely his issue. Staff is no longer involved.

[DWCreeper167]

It's not a tactic. I want to know if you guys have forwarded on his details. Banning someone means nothing. This may be a torrent forum and relates back to things happening with torrent connections but this is more of a serious matter than that.

Forward on his details, that is all I ask and that is what should have been done as soon as all this went down.

[Tv Controls you]

Just because you have an issue with 1 member of our site gives you no right to take it out on the 18 staff members and 15,081 members of our site. Karma is a bitch and I seriously hope you get what's coming for you.

It's funny how he is only banned after this whole topic was brought up... Would you have even banned him if this thread didn't show up, or if the op didn't expose it?

In addition prior to his ban I had a problem with every member of the site that continued to support it, as it was supporting Child pornography.
I'm glad you have banned him, it was truly the right thing to do.

On a side note.... I don't give a who you are or who you know.
I'm not scared of you or your ineffectual threats about karma.

[Kate28]

It's not a tactic. I want to know if you guys have forwarded on his details. Banning someone means nothing. This may be a torrent forum and relates back to things happening with torrent connections but this is more of a serious matter than that.

Forward on his details, that is all I ask and that is what should have been done as soon as all this went down.

Then why did you drag the entire site down with it. Instead of launching this attack you could have calmly discussed it with the sysops and other staff around at that time. This entire situation could have gone about much differently.
We are actively taking steps to notify people about the event that occured, but you need to seriously step down this campaign. It is only creating confusion, fear, and more unneeded attention to his despicable actions.

[DWCreeper167]

Notice from the pics I posted I DID speak to both sysops. Pham isn't around otherwise I would have spoken to him. What use is there in speaking to a Director or other lower staff who has no control over the site?

Should I have got a staff meeting together to discuss this? No, fact remains 2 ptp sysops + max + another ptp staff were there and saw it and they may or may not have said via call to stop posting the links, that's irrelevant.

Immediate action should have been taken. The very least I should have expected is for them to cut communication off between themselves and spektormax but that didn't happen. AFAIK, the convo continued for a very long time after I left and the thought of banning him didn't even come to mind.

It was only after this forum thread and others like it that today, finally, he was banned but if proper action were taken, I'm shocked I haven't heard about it.

Because we are speaking of someone high up in the bit torrent scene, I'm amazed I haven't seen his details broadcasted to the heavens. Sorry if I don't take your word for it when you said "it's been taken care of".