I'm always better in the re-writes but then it's like a day too late.![]()
Respect my lack of authority.
I'm sure this is only going to serve to get me banned permanently since I'm already on shaky ground but what the hell, why not join the party and voice my opinion as well right? If you can't speak then what's the point of living, censorship sucks.
- It's obvious, and understandable why staff are in damage control. Anyone would be with this thread. Nobody can justify it but nobody is. By definition however you are condoning it by not reporting him to the police and any claims that you can't are false.
- The fact max's account was disabled doesn't really account for much, considering how easy it is to make a new one and that staff mentioned renaming his account, clearly visible in the staff forum - (Screenshot to come)
- There has to be atleast 1 staff member who knows Max in person and can call the police to investigate. It's not your place or anyone here to decide if it was legal or not, it's a job for the police and 100% without a doubt the report should be made. PTP isn't directly involved but staff know Max and have the responsibility as people to report this activity. It's deadset as simple as that. You guys have his number I'm sure, and can contact DAQ or pham if needed to get more information about him for the police. It's incredibly easy for you to report him and there's no excuse you can make to justify not doing it.
- Azazel should not have included links in the original post to the child porn content. This makes you worse than Max to be honest, he posted links to 3 people in a private conversation, you've spread the porn to potentially hundreds of thousands of people across many sites. I feel you should also be reported to the police without a doubt.
It's not the place to raise previous issues about PTP so I won't, though I'm quite tempted. I guess I'm just glad this one isn't swept under the rug but now it's out & those who know where to find him should report him to the cops.
Last edited by Six66Mike; 04-01-2010 at 08:53 AM.
We live in an imperfect world with imperfect justice. As easy as it seems to want pedoMax (and everyone who has ever intentionally clicked on a child porn link) locked up, the police do not have the manpower or budgets to investigate allegations of this level. They have enough to do finding serious traffickers, producers, and child abductors.
Sadly, the police will say essentially what the mod on PtP did. That is the imperfect part...
There IS technology that could monitor our every action online AND in the real world. We could have traffic cams at every intersection. Radar equipped cameras could record our roadways for speeders and drunk drivers. We could virtually eliminate street crime by posting video cameras in all public places. Our ISPs could turn over records to be scanned for our every page view and our emails could be previewed for suspicious activity. Since drug use leads to the deaths of innocents each year, we could ALL be required to send in MANDATORY blood and urine samples each month/week. All of our phone conversations could be screened as well.
I am sure a few more currently available technical solutions could get us closer to the "perfect justice" some of you are seeking.
Is pedoMax a scumbag? Most likely. At the very least, he needs to gain some insight into acceptability and responsibility. Azazel needs to quit being a vengeful little prick. And the grand-standers around here need to realize the costs of living with perfect justice.
I don't like to enter or talk about others neither judge any one before I do know him/her completely, but when it's about paedophilia and child abuse I think that there is no rule I can't break.
The main idea and thing about what Azazel did is that he didn't knew what to do, so he made it public which I think is good idea and bad in same time as he mentioned PTP and in PTP (in my own opinion) 99,99 % users wont agree with same behaviours of paedophilia(except this spektorma and maybe others), so including PTP in the discussion should be just to mention where he is staff and I'm sure Azazel wanted that.
Now, about spektorma behaviours, I think that he should be denounced to justice as he is a real danger for the hole society or community he live with, especially if what Azazel said is right. For people who know him and don't get him out of his behaviours, you are his accomplices in what he can do or you are just like him.
Like it, or not, there isn't enough evidence to get a search warrant.
As I mentioned in my above post- there are A LOT OF CRIMES THAT OCCUR EVERY DAY.
Feel free to call the police yourself. Call the FBI, Interpol, The National Guard... Your call will go something like, "This guy posted 2 links to child porn online." Even if you had the guy's real name. Wait for it............No one is going to investigate.
And I'll just keep saying again, let the cops decide.
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