PassThePopcorn or PassTheChildPorn

[t0x]

It would seem as if PTP staff have enough time to wank to Child pornography over a glass of tea and cookies every night though.

I said to stop using your ass to think... again, you're not making one single valid point. You have NO proof of those, what-so-ever. Just pure conjuncture from someone who posted links to child porn for thousands of people to see to further his own agenda. You seriously have no clue what went on during that call, and what was said after those links were posted.

[Tv Controls you]

I said to stop using your ass to think... again, you're not making one single valid point. You have NO proof of those, what-so-ever. Just pure conjuncture from someone who posted links to child porn for thousands of people to see to further his own agenda. You seriously have no clue what went on during that call, and what was said after those links were posted.

Your right, what am I thinking.

Anyone else want to join a skype with me and "check" to see if links contain child pornography.
Only a clear thinking man would search for child porn, and then have others on skype check to confirm that it is child porn.


Come on....Do you even realize what your trying to defend?

[t0x]

Azazel was going through some busy times in his life, and didn't have time to discuss it elsewhere so he just took a quick screenshot, and posted it here.
Poor guy is just so damn busy that he didn't have time to take it elsewhere.

That's not truthful at all. He made the same post on several forums, and at least a one blog. I'm sure he also sent in the "article" to TorrentFreak or **************... and I'm almost positive they won't run something involving it so he had no choice but to post it on here. Also, he called cops in two different states trying to get him in trouble. I don't care about that, it's a moot point. My point simply is: Azazel could have handled this much better, and he didn't need to involve the entire BitTorrent scene in his campaign to stop child porn. Nor did he have to slander PTP and their staff, who have done nothing towards him except demote him from a moderator-type position.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't he the same one who stirred shit up with BTN when they demoted him? Wow, amazing... two different private BT trackers demote him. I'm sure it's for different reasons, but doesn't anyone else think this was handled inappropriately? It can't be a good thing to associate any form of P2P with child porn. This accusation from him has caused more damage than solved any problem.

Your right, what am I thinking.

Anyone else want to join a skype with me and "check" to see if links contain child pornography.
Only a clear thinking man would search for child porn, and then have others on skype check to confirm that it is child porn.


Come on....Do you even realize what your trying to defend?

I'm not defending him. I don't care what happens to him... actually. I'm defending PTP, because they had nothing to do with it in the first place.

[Tv Controls you]

I'm not defending him. I don't care what happens to him... actually. I'm defending PTP, because they had nothing to do with it in the first place.

PTP staff were in the channel when he linked to child porno pictures.

[t0x]

PTP staff were in the channel when he linked to child porno pictures.

I'm not arguing that. I know a couple of them have posted in here stating that they were cp pictures, but the fact is they didn't post them. He was no longer staff there, just merely a consultant and founder of the site... the idea, I guess you could say. But he's not there for the day-to-day activities like FLS and moderators are, which is who this entire campaign from Azazel, and now you, is geared towards.

[megabyteme]

I'm not defending him. I don't care what happens to him... actually. I'm defending PTP, because they had nothing to do with it in the first place.

I believe you and I are not too far apart on this.

Personally, I have (when I was younger- not recently) seen friends drive when they were intoxicated. I have known people who made money selling drugs. I turned a blind eye to those instances because I knew them. I am 100% certain that many of the "evil must be stamped out at all costs" posters have at least, one time or another, done the same. Would I do things differently? Honestly, I don't know.

I have never faced the same situation that the PtP faced. I do still believe that their blind-eye was due to pedoMax's founder status. Things were probably not as black and white as they first seem to be. Ultimately, they got together and made the right moves. I now believe there IS sufficient reason for pedoMax to be investigated. At the time, there was only a couple of links posted. Now, we have seen a PATHETIC, BULLSHIT COVER STORY. PEOPLE SHOULD COME FORWARD AND GET pedoMax INVESTIGATED.

[Tv Controls you]

I'm not arguing that. I know a couple of them have posted in here stating that they were cp pictures, but the fact is they didn't post them. He was no longer staff there, just merely a consultant and founder of the site... the idea, I guess you could say. But he's not there for the day-to-day activities like FLS and moderators are, which is who this entire campaign from Azazel, and now you, is geared towards.

What do you think would happen to Apple stock if Steve Jobs was found to be a pedophile?

My point being... A founder directly reflects on his assets.

[glados]

The humour in this eludes me.

It really annoys me that the staff of PTP think that their sites reputation is more important than exposing a potential pedophile.

Their failure to angrily condemn child porn really makes me wonder how many other staff are also perverts and whether sharing CP is a common thing at PTP.

IF THIS GUY IS A PEDO, HE ISNT YOUR FRIEND UNLESS YOU ARE A PEDO TOO!!

^agreed.

Wow... and again, people like PTP staff and t0x are still attacking Azazel to drain attention from the main issue here... NOBODY CARES why Azazel did what he did, all people care about is to bring Spektormax to justice.

The main issue here is that PTP staff had done absolutely nothing ("disabling" his account isn't doing shit)... They have his name, email, IPs, phone number, and probably even his address... more than enough to report him to authorities, yet they are still protecting him.

PTP staff are without a doubt protecting a pedophile. That tells me enough about them, and that alone is enough reason for any sensible individual to stay clear from passthepopcorn.

[Tv Controls you]

NOBODY CARES why Azazel

^agreed, the fight about Azazel is pointless....
And further more is no where near on the scale of what Spektormax did.

Although I am pleased with him just being disabled, his ip should be openly distributed to every private tracker for a global ban.
The Authorities are scum bags, and not to be trusted at all with this matter. The main concern here (for me atleast) is getting him far from File sharing.

[t0x]

I believe you and I are not too far apart on this.

Personally, I have (when I was younger- not recently) seen friends drive when they were intoxicated. I have known people who made money selling drugs. I turned a blind eye to those instances because I knew them. I am 100% certain that many of the "evil must be stamped out at all costs" posters have at least, one time or another, done the same. Would I do things differently? Honestly, I don't know.

I have never faced the same situation that the PtP faced. I do still believe that their blind-eye was due to pedoMax's founder status. Things were probably not as black and white as they first seem to be. Ultimately, they got together and made the right moves. I now believe there IS sufficient reason for pedoMax to be investigated. At the time, there was only a couple of links posted. Now, we have seen a PATHETIC, BULLSHIT COVER STORY. PEOPLE SHOULD COME FORWARD AND GET pedoMax INVESTIGATED.

I've seen and done bad things in the past. I was a teenager, after all. I never turned anyone over to the cops for petty small things, but I have done things that are to make the community better (IE: press charges on a rapist) and I believe those are for the overall better part of the community. If the people who have his information and feel like he is this person then I would tell them to turn over information to the proper person to have it handled. If they believe he is a danger, then I beg them to do so. From what I can tell he was telling the truth because he has no reason to lie about anything. He's already "lost" or given up rights to the site, and managed to lose friends in this process. Lying isn't going to further anything for him...

I spoke to someone who was in the conversation (the actual call conversation, not just the text part of it) about that mysterious 4chan link that was posted to "encourage" him to post more child porn pictures, and it was a simple LOL4chan picture, and before the 510chan links there were several of the LOL4chan picture links... which I'm assuming Azazel conveniently left out, so we could assume things. The same things he had intent to do... which was slander the staff of an amazing private BitTorrent tracker.

I honestly don't see how authorities would investigate something like this, but that's another persons issue... because I have no opinion on the legality of it. It would be very hard to be tracked down based on an online alias. As I've stated, I'm not a lawyer or a police official, so I won't speculate on it.

NOBODY CARES why Azazel

^agreed, the fight about Azazel is pointless....
And further more is no where near on the scale of what Spektormax did.

orly? Because I don't condone what SpekTorMax done, he showed those links to 3-4 people. Azazel showed them to thousands, potentially. So tell me how much better Azazel is for sharing this, and how it's not as bad as what SpekTorMax done?