R.I.P FTN or not?

[Detale]

Look Abby I'm not going to continue to go tit for tat with you on every little irrelevant semantic. Mostly because you are exhausting in your ignorance. The little I can muster is below

That is no excuse for defending a site blindly without any sorts of reasoning behind it.I called you a blockhead because questions like the below just keep coming from you and it seems you dosent comprehend somethings which is clearly obvious to anyone reading it.(eg:irc convo where my aim was to show about the donations in FTN)

Blindly?? How dare you. You aren't even a member of FTN so between the two of us I'd say I have a more clear view than you do. My reasoning is simple. Innocent until proven guilty so those who do the shit talking should have to prove it NOT the site who contributes to the community. FTN is being attacked here, they aren't coming here attacking anyone else. This is why I believe the shit talkers are wrong here.

Again with this IRC convo?? It's no kind of proof whatsoever of anything. It's just some guy saying how many times he thinks FTN has asked for money in an allotted time. That's it. Who is the guy? What are his credentials? Do you at very least get how he and that convo don't mean anything because we don't know who he is?

Originally Posted by Detale
Who did FTN defame or slander here?

Who said FTN did that.All I said was(hate quoting again and again)

YOU DID MORON!!

?And yes it is "libelous and irresponsible to say the least." on the part of FTN.

Obviously You should google the word Libel and get back to me OK champ

I am saying "shit talkers wont stop shit talking unless they get any sort of proof to stop shit talking".zzz

Yes i get that and my view is that they don't owe the shit talkers anything. Innocent until proven guilty. I'll put it like this, If i were to start a thread saying you enjoyed farm animal sex and others chimed in saying they knew it to be true, should you have to prove you weren't into that or should you be allowed to live your life free of harassment??

Before you say oh the donors are owed blah blah. I highly doubt all the people talking shit are donors here. Even if they are when you donate to the red cross do you have a say as to how they spend it?? No you don't ,again google the word donate for a more clear definition.

[A]

Detale,You are asking the same things which have been discussed posts before again and again and making remarks like this:

Who said FTN did that.All I said was(hate quoting again and again)

YOU DID MORON!!

My arguments was clear in this thread,and I didnt say the above either.

Again with this IRC convo?? It's no kind of proof whatsoever of anything. It's just some guy saying how many times he thinks FTN has asked for money in an allotted time. That's it. Who is the guy? What are his credentials? Do you at very least get how he and that convo don't mean anything because we don't know who he is?

Man,seriously if you dont understand why I put in the IRC convo.leave it.I am not going to quote for you again.

Blindly?? How dare you. You aren't even a member of FTN so between the two of us I'd say I have a more clear view than you do. My reasoning is simple. Innocent until proven guilty so those who do the shit talking should have to prove it NOT the site who contributes to the community. FTN is being attacked here, they aren't coming here attacking anyone else. This is why I believe the shit talkers are wrong here.

Please read what sez wrote.

The funniest part about this all is the people who complain or ask these loaded questions are most of the time not even members of the sites they attack/question. Or they have been banned or disabled or whatever and look for revenge, so they get other individuals all riled up and sit back and laugh at the drama that was created....

What kinda stupid logic is that?First you say "most of them asking these question or shit talking are still members of the site" and then you say "the people who complain or ask these loaded questions are most of the time not even members of the sites they attack/question".So by the looks of it,both ways no one can ask questions?wow,please keep that to yourself.thanks.
And explain to me why a person shouldnt be a member of the site if he complains?I can say the ratio system in BitmeTV sucks(ratio system in most of the sites are lame),that means I should stop using BitmeTV?Isint it because people complained so much that the ratio system changed in What.CD?You you dont want other people to talk?start a tracker with the rule "Rule#1: Dont talk anything about the tracker".And then you can ban people for speaking up.

[pone44]

Abybeats,Who are you to make these allegations without proof? If the site needed help or not, it is still not your business or concern. They did not force anyone to donate. Members donated because they appreciate the site and staff. It has been around for a long time and never did anything shady to my knowledge.

[A]

Abybeats,Who are you to make these allegations without proof?

Point out the allegations I made please.Thanks.

If the site needed help or not, it is still not your business or concern.

I dont want to see anything nor am I interested in the least bit in ftn or what they do.

They did not force anyone to donate.

Who said they did?

Members donated because they appreciate the site and staff.

Check out the poll thread.

It has been around for a long time and never did anything shady to my knowledge.

Read what sez wrote

[pone44]

Ffs then what are you arguing /debating about in this thread? What is your point with making a poll?

[A]

Ffs then what are you arguing /debating about in this thread? What is your point with making a poll?

Read the thread.

[deadalive1]

lol his ignorance is overwhelming... I also notice you aren't bringing any of this shit up in the GFT thread...hmmm I wonder why that is?

No accusations for what is happening with their paypal account?

No complaints about them asking for money?

No census from multiple forums to put up numbers for them?

No poll for them?

Too funny......

Oh and P.S. I do run a tracker and we've been around almost 6 years now lmao, so much for what you know........

[A]

I also notice you aren't bringing any of this shit up in the GFT thread...hmmm I wonder why that is?

No accusations for what is happening with their paypal account?

No complaints about them asking for money?

No census from multiple forums to put up numbers for them?

No poll for them?

Too funny......

Give me one good reason I should do that.This whole discussion was a reply to Detale.If I feel replying to something in the GFT thread which I would like to question,I will.I dont need your help in that.Also,I can clearly see from those statements that you havent read this thread and what I intend to convey.No interest in you whatsoever.And a general trend in people like you I see is people like you label anyone who questions or have a difference in opinions into trolls/shit talkers.Typical Staff complex.

and When addressed what you commented here

The funniest part about this all is the people who complain or ask these loaded questions are most of the time not even members of the sites they attack/question. Or they have been banned or disabled or whatever and look for revenge, so they get other individuals all riled up and sit back and laugh at the drama that was created....

What kinda stupid logic is that?First you say "most of them asking these question or shit talking are still members of the site" and then you say "the people who complain or ask these loaded questions are most of the time not even members of the sites they attack/question".So by the looks of it,both ways no one can ask questions?wow,please keep that to yourself.thanks.
And explain to me why a person shouldnt be a member of the site if he complains?I can say the ratio system in BitmeTV sucks(ratio system in most of the sites are lame),that means I should stop using BitmeTV?Isint it because people complained so much that the ratio system changed in What.CD?You you dont want other people to talk?start a tracker with the rule "Rule#1: Dont talk anything about the tracker".And then you can ban people for speaking up.

you are dodging the question by calling it ignorance.Is that the new trend now?If you cant answer dodge it with some stupid words?
People who are members shouldnt question,people who are not members shouldnt question,People who are banned or disabled also shouldnt question.So according to who is that who can question?Would like to know.

Oh and P.S. I do run a tracker and we've been around almost 6 years now lmao, so much for what you know........

I know that very well.But the tracker dosent have such a rule like i mentioned.does it?I think you need to implement it,because you seem to dislike questions and is only good at passing smartass comments or make a tracker like that.

[deadalive1]

What? Do you mean make rules like don't post our screens anywhere? Or, don't share accounts or our (dot) torrent files with anyone? Or, don't trade/sell accounts/invites? lol Yeah, those rules work well... like that would make any bit of difference if someone wants to violate it or not. There are assholes everywhere who get off on that shit, hell some make blogs and screen sites and offer buffering services just so they can feel big and important and rub it in trackers faces because "THEY" think the rule/s is stupid or wrong (like their opinion matters at all) and think they have the right to do it since it isn't their ass on the line.

My bitch with you abybeats is you are not even a member of FTN yet you feel you should have your questions answered. What gives you the right to know anything about it? Regardless of the answers you may or may not be given, you won't believe it.

How would you like this proof to be presented? A screenshot? Well that won't work because of the obvious security issues of exposing private banking information. So exactly how would this proof be presented to where you'd finally believe it? I don't foresee any way other than a screen of the actual account, and since that isn't going to happen, now what?

Like I said originally, I like and enjoy FTN and since I have been there for a few years, I will give them the benefit of the doubt. If you want to continue on with the witch hunt by all means do so, but I have said all I am going to say about this topic now as I am just repeating myself anyway (and honestly so are you).

We can agree to disagree.. cause this is getting pointless.

[J-dye]