Failure?

[999969999]

How many people around the world had ever heard of Oklahoma City?

And there are no easy escape routes from Eagar (hundreds of miles before they would reach a big city), and it is nearly impossible to blend in with the rather monolithic locals-- they almost all look alike (85% white) and they know everyone in the town, so they would be able to spot a stranger rather quickly. You should see what locals do when a tourist comes through a residential (off the main street) area.

Timothy McVeigh would have fit right in.

Tim is a bit of a hero to some of the mountainfolk around here.

We have two main types of people here... fundamentalist Mormons and mountainfolk. Both are very conservative, but in surprisingly different ways. They each have their own neighborhoods and for the most part, don't interact with each other.

[devilsadvocate]

Sounds like you live in a hotbed of dangerous paranoia.

[clocker]

Tim is a bit of a hero to some of the mountainfolk around here.

Now I'd like to bomb your town.

But you're right, what would be the point of terrorizing a town that already agrees with you?

[999969999]

Tim is a bit of a hero to some of the mountainfolk around here.

Now I'd like to bomb your town.

But you're right, what would be the point of terrorizing a town that already agrees with you?

Hey, I didn't say he was my hero.

I'm descended from the Mormon side of the town, not the mountainfolk. Mormons try to solve problems in a political manner, not through violence.

While I don't believe in the religion, I fully support the modern day Mormon community and all that for which it stands. Strong families, abhorrence of crime, and a strict constructionist view of the constitution. Mormons really help to take care of their own, and I think it helps explain why our communities are among the fastest growing communities in the western states, and why they help to determine the outcome of many of the elections in Arizona, Utah, Nevada, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, and to a lesser extent New Mexico.


And, I really doubt the recent Pakistani bomber would agree with or like the Mormon community or even the mountainfolk hillbillies. We're not Muslims.

The reason we would not be a target for someone like him is that there would be very little name recognition value for blowing up a tiny town like Eagar (Oklahoma City has over 550,000 people in it, Eagar has less than 5000 people in it), and I think he would be discovered so quickly and watched so intently in Eagar, he would never make it out of town alive once people figured out what he was up to. Just about everyone up here has a gun and knows how to use it. It would be a bad place for a Muslim terrorist.

[devilsadvocate]

Given that for the most part suicide has been the preferred delivery method for their attacks, why would guns be a deterrent?
Our military is far better armed than your town, knows how to use those weapons and yet they are attacked.

[999969999]

Given that for the most part suicide has been the preferred delivery method for their attacks, why would guns be a deterrent?
Our military is far better armed than your town, knows how to use those weapons and yet they are attacked.

This last guy didn't want to die. He wanted to fly out of the U.S.

And still, the name recognition value is a major concern. They chose New York-- everyone in the world knows about New York. They seem to be fixated on it.

I can see Muslims around the world scratching their heads when they hear of Eagar being blown up.


The risk of detection, of getting caught, before they have a chance to set up a bomb in Eagar would be quite high. Like I said before, when a stranger comes to town, the locals watch them to see what they are up to. That would not be a good thing for a terrorist. They want the element of surprise. They wouldn't get that in Eagar.

[clocker]

Mormons try to solve problems in a political manner, not through violence.

While I don't believe in the religion, I fully support the modern day Mormon community and all that for which it stands. Strong families, abhorrence of crime, and a strict constructionist view of the constitution. Mormons really help to take care of their own, and I think it helps explain why our communities are among the fastest growing communities in the western states, and why they help to determine the outcome of many of the elections in Arizona, Utah, Nevada, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, and to a lesser extent New Mexico.

You forgot their brilliant work on Prop 8 in California.

[999969999]

Mormons try to solve problems in a political manner, not through violence.

While I don't believe in the religion, I fully support the modern day Mormon community and all that for which it stands. Strong families, abhorrence of crime, and a strict constructionist view of the constitution. Mormons really help to take care of their own, and I think it helps explain why our communities are among the fastest growing communities in the western states, and why they help to determine the outcome of many of the elections in Arizona, Utah, Nevada, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, and to a lesser extent New Mexico.

You forgot their brilliant work on Prop 8 in California.

Hey, it didn't outlaw homosexuality, it just closed the door on them getting married and pretending to be normal. They can still do whatever they want behind closed doors in their bedrooms, and they can still live together.

Most of them don't even want to get married. Their "relationships" don't tend to last that long anyways.

Forget about the religious aspect of it. I don't care about that. Look at it from a scientific view. They can't reproduce. They can never be a normal family.

[clocker]

Did you learn that from your fabulous public schools or from "some guy" on talk radio?

For a kid in a hick town you certainly are worldly, what with knowing how gays think and a personal friend of Obama's and all.

[MagicNakor]

Did you hear that infertile men and women? Do you understand people that don't want children? You will never be normal. You are not entitled to any human companionship or comfort in your life. "Relationships" are for the sole purpose of procreation. If you straight people are married and can't/won't have children, it is your moral obligation to divorce and move into separate domiciles where, if you are very lucky, you will be permitted a goldfish.