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[sez]

If all this is true then not all the what.cd 'I got banned for no reason' whine threads are unfounded.
And ringhunter I think you are looking at ethics from a far too general point of view.
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[Quarterquack]

Also by the looks of it caook and ringhunter wont even mind if their bank accounts get stolen or if their personal info is made public.And lol@"We are pirates so we cant talk about morality/ethics".Then lemme ask you,who are ideal candidates who can talk about morality and ethics.

Have you even read what I have written? I don't have a problem with you calling someone out on some moral flaw in their conduct. I have a problem with pirates setting rules amongst pirates, and tying ethics to it. The way I see it, and the way I will continue to see it is, it's hypocritical to break rules society put in place, then expect people to have a semblance of respect to rules you yourself make up of nowhere. I hate backie's attitude as much as the next guy, but he's right when it comes to people blindly listening/following to trading/cheating rules. The true "honor among pirates" is the unspoken respect and understanding for each others motives, not the fact that we should aim for an impalpable utopia.

One of the my worst gripes with the scene are all the retarded standards; attempting to set rules by which rule breakers are attempted to be contained. I'm sorry if I'm the only one in this thread who realizes how retarded that is. Would you prefer to be treated by a sick doctor or a healthy one? Would you hire a carpenter whose office door is broken? Would you listen to a university professor who is shaky when it comes to the subject at hand? Then why would you listen to a pirate's ideals when it comes to rules?

If all this is true then not all the what.cd 'I got banned for no reason' whine threads are unfounded.
And ringhunter I think you are looking at ethics from a far too general point of view.
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Granted I have never delved in too deep into ethics/morality books/courses, I will agree that maybe my point of view is too general, but that's how I'm arguing. I'm not saying trading is right or wrong; you can form your own opinion of my stance from what activities I indulge in around here. What I am arguing is the fact that I believe it's wrong for a pirate to set rules for other pirates to abide by, and for that I needed to "look at the bigger picture" per se.

[ca_aok]

Also by the looks of it caook and ringhunter wont even mind if their bank accounts get stolen or if their personal info is made public.And lol@"We are pirates so we cant talk about morality/ethics".Then lemme ask you,who are ideal candidates who can talk about morality and ethics.

First off, spell my name right if you're going to make useless accusations against me.

Secondly, the CSS leak can't do shit all to steal your bank account aside from telling them which bank you use (assuming they've compiled an exhaustive list of the URLs of every banking site). It has no mechanism to swipe your username or password, it simply shows that you visited a web page. This has nothing to do with accounts being stolen or people's data being released, which is generally collected by methods completely separate from the CSS leak thing (email/username + google is usually a good starting point). I'm not sure if people are misinformed about how this all works or if you're simply trying to extrapolate this "invasion of privacy" to a completely different invasion of privacy. Either way it's a useless comparison.

For the average non-paranoid member, they'll be able to get far more relevant information about you from your IP and email address. Obviously you could use a disposable email and a VPN and be more conscious about keeping your torrenting identity separate from the rest of your online activity, but many people make no effort to hide who they are elsewhere.

Have you even read what I have written? I don't have a problem with you calling someone out on some moral flaw in their conduct. I have a problem with pirates setting rules amongst pirates, and tying ethics to it. The way I see it, and the way I will continue to see it is, it's hypocritical to break rules society put in place, then expect people to have a semblance of respect to rules you yourself make up of nowhere. I hate backie's attitude as much as the next guy, but he's right when it comes to people blindly listening/following to trading/cheating rules. The true "honor among pirates" is the unspoken respect and understanding for each others motives, not the fact that we should aim for an impalpable utopia.

Not really. The rules are set up to weed out the shit from these sites, which is half the reason to use a private tracker in the first place. Weeding out the shit leads to better speeds and torrent retention in the case of cheaters, and fewer people profiting off your site in the case of traders, the most prolific of which are generally invite sellers.

You're abiding by rules to preserve the establishment you use for your benefit. If you don't like it, get the hell out as far as I'm concerned. There's always The Pirate Bay for those who want a site where you don't have to worry about anything other than snatching a .torrent.

[backie]

Not really. The rules are set up to weed out the shit from these sites, which is half the reason to use a private tracker in the first place. Weeding out the shit leads to better speeds and torrent retention in the case of cheaters, and fewer people profiting off your site in the case of traders, the most prolific of which are generally invite seller

I belive every user profits from using a torrent tracker aslong as they download stuff they don't. This whole let's not let people make money from piracy is just silly, when I was younger and there was no broadband in the UK I used to buy pirate VCDS (yea that far back) I was happy to do so and got my monies worth. Yet some people think that selling pirate DVDs is worse than downloading the stuff for your own usage or that selling invites to a tracker so someone who doesn't have the connections can download free shit too.

[Tv Controls you]

I belive every user profits from using a torrent tracker aslong as they download stuff they don't. This whole let's not let people make money from piracy is just silly, when I was younger and there was no broadband in the UK I used to buy pirate VCDS (yea that far back) I was happy to do so and got my monies worth. Yet some people think that selling pirate DVDs is worse than downloading the stuff for your own usage or that selling invites to a tracker so someone who doesn't have the connections can download free shit too.

Its also highly punishable to distribute copyright infringed material, whereas it is a lesser punishment for owning it for personal use.

The reason we don't want people to sell pirate dvd's is to defer attention towards our bittorrent sites.
The less people that get caught selling bootlegs, the less heat on BT.

The fact that you support selling invites and selling pirated dvd's is truly disturbing to me, as nearly every BT community looks down upon both acts.
But what was I expecting from the jellyfish of bittorrent?

Turning profit on Illegal torrents is a big no-no around here, doesn't matter who we are talking about. The private tracker, owner, staff, members, or anyone associated with it.

[7th]

This is so stupid... I'm a happy "non-what.cd" member

[backie]

I belive every user profits from using a torrent tracker aslong as they download stuff they don't. This whole let's not let people make money from piracy is just silly, when I was younger and there was no broadband in the UK I used to buy pirate VCDS (yea that far back) I was happy to do so and got my monies worth. Yet some people think that selling pirate DVDs is worse than downloading the stuff for your own usage or that selling invites to a tracker so someone who doesn't have the connections can download free shit too.

Its also highly punishable to distribute copyright infringed material, whereas it is a lesser punishment for owning it for personal use.

The reason we don't want people to sell pirate dvd's is to defer attention towards our bittorrent sites.
The less people that get caught selling bootlegs, the less heat on BT.

The fact that you support selling invites and selling pirated dvd's is truly disturbing to me, as nearly every BT community looks down upon both acts.
But what was I expecting from the jellyfish of bittorrent?

Turning profit on Illegal torrents is a big no-no around here, doesn't matter who we are talking about. The private tracker, owner, staff, members, or anyone associated with it.

Ok, you had a good post, I was gonna let it ride even thou it was flawed. Then you edit it to insult me for not decent reason and then you talk some more crap.

See because the amount of ways to get bootleg/pirate movies there is usenets,xdcc,torrents,the scene. The amount of bootleggers doesn't really affect the amount of heat on torrents.

Making profit of torrents is perfectly ok, I highly suspect this site is making a profit off illegal torrent community. Sites such as xirvik and other seedbox providers are making profit off illegal torrents. Usenet companies are making a profit off piracy. It's just the trackers have decided theres a few things they don't like and people like you tow the line.

[Tv Controls you]

Making profit of torrents is perfectly ok, I highly suspect this site is making a profit off illegal torrent community. Sites such as xirvik and other seedbox providers are making profit off illegal torrents. Usenet companies are making a profit off piracy. It's just the trackers have decided theres a few things they don't like and people like you tow the line.

I would be stupid not to believe that there is alot of people using bittorrent to make gains, just take PTP for example...
If you read anything on this thread you would realize I don't "tow the line" as I openly speak up against the css attack..

This is how sites get shut down, idiots like you going out and selling dvd's then getting caught.
Being the idiot you are you rat out a private tracker, and then they are focusing on the private tracker.

If your just trying to justify your own situation for attempting to make money off Bt with your sorry ass blog, and selling some bootlegs.. I really feel sorry for you.

[backie]

Making profit of torrents is perfectly ok, I highly suspect this site is making a profit off illegal torrent community. Sites such as xirvik and other seedbox providers are making profit off illegal torrents. Usenet companies are making a profit off piracy. It's just the trackers have decided theres a few things they don't like and people like you tow the line.

I would be stupid not to believe that there is alot of people using bittorrent to make gains, just take PTP for example...
If you read anything on this thread you would realize I don't "tow the line" as I openly speak up against the css attack..

This is how sites get shut down, idiots like you going out and selling dvd's then getting caught.
Being the idiot you are you rat out a private tracker, and then they are focusing on the private tracker.

If your just trying to justify your own situation for attempting to make money off Bt with your sorry ass blog, and selling some bootlegs.. I really feel sorry for you.

Well considering your logic for no selling shit is weak and is the same crap every tracker comes up with, it's really hard for someone such as myself not to think you just tow the line. Being anti the css pirvacy invasion isn't enough to think any different.

Sites don't get shut down just because one person sells dvds and gets caught and tells them which tracker they downloaded them from. Guess what that isn't what happened to UK-T. Shock shock horror! To be honest I would be very surprised if they even ask with tracker once you said a torrent site. You seem to be living in denial thinking that every torrent site isn't already known and tagged and sites like this aren't followed by members of Copyright Agencies such as FACT.

Next you're gonna say I am just trying to justify my selling FSC accounts/invites! hehe. I like how you know you have a weak ass angle and are trying to deflect on to me, this doesn't change your weak ass angle.

[Tv Controls you]

it's really hard for someone such as myself not to think you just tow the line.

I'm banned from waffles.fm and what.cd, take that for towing the line... lol

Also... I don't ever remember referring to uk-t once.