Marxism/communism/socialism

[chalice]

Originally posted by noname12@31 October 2003 - 22:53
Carl Marx - Thinker, came up the the communist Idea, so he is the father. Student of Marx said that Communism is not Implementable, Socialism is a better route.
Theories of Marx being a Fraud released, accusations of him trying to further jewish economic beliefs rose.

Trotski - Fellow communist, His ideals was that communism had to be introduced in steps, first socialism then Communism. When communism gained more power he was ousted and he fled to America.

Lenin - Shared the idea's of Trotski but could not wait and pushed for the Communist state to be implimented as he saw it as the natural Evolution of polotics.

It just shows how westernised the East has become.
Marx's christian name used to have a strong Ukranian "K".

[noname12]

Trotski - He saw the plight of the Russian people under the tzar, after needlessly going into the 1st world war and the suffering of people and the huge gap between the ruling class and the working class, he felt something needed to be done. He and Lenin saw the natural step forward is Communism to bring stability and prosperaty to the Provinces. There idea was the utilize Russia's rich resources for the State which inturn will give power back to the people. The power of russia was in its economy.

Lenin - shared the same views.

[chalice]

Originally posted by noname12@31 October 2003 - 22:59
Trotski - He saw the plight of the Russian people under the tzar, after needlessly going into the 1st world war and the suffering of people and the huge gap between the ruling class and the working class, he felt something needed to be done. He and Lenin saw the natural step forward is Communism to bring stability and prosperaty to the Provinces. There idea was the utilize Russia's rich resources for the State which inturn will give power back to the people. The power of russia was in its economy.

Lenin - shared the same views.

Is that Leon Trotsky?
Forgive me, Noname, but your political roots seem somewhat undernourished.

[noname12]

Originally posted by chalice+31 October 2003 - 23:11--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (chalice @ 31 October 2003 - 23:11)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-noname12@31 October 2003 - 22:59
Trotski - He saw the plight of the Russian people under the tzar, after needlessly going into the 1st world war and the suffering of people and the huge gap between the ruling class and the working class, he felt something needed to be done. He and Lenin saw the natural step forward is Communism to bring stability and prosperaty to the Provinces. There idea was the utilize Russia&#39;s rich resources for the State which inturn will give power back to the people. The power of russia was in its economy.

Lenin - shared the same views.

Is that Leon Trotsky?
Forgive me, Noname, but your political roots seem somewhat undernourished. [/b][/quote]
Man dont ask me spelling, if I was to spell it the way it is in my language then it would be "trootiskee"

[chalice]

Originally posted by noname12+31 October 2003 - 23:11--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (noname12 @ 31 October 2003 - 23:11)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by chalice@31 October 2003 - 23:11
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@31 October 2003 - 22:59
Trotski - He saw the plight of the Russian people under the tzar, after needlessly going into the 1st world war and the suffering of people and the huge gap between the ruling class and the working class, he felt something needed to be done. He and Lenin saw the natural step forward is Communism to bring stability and prosperaty to the Provinces. There idea was the utilize Russia&#39;s rich resources for the State which inturn will give power back to the people. The power of russia was in its economy.

Lenin - shared the same views.

Is that Leon Trotsky?
Forgive me, Noname, but your political roots seem somewhat undernourished.

Man dont ask me spelling, if I was to spell it the way it is in my language then it would be "trootiskee" [/b][/quote]
LOL

[noname12]

Exactly

[MagicNakor]

I go to sleep, and look what happens.

The Soviet Union is one of the few areas that I&#39;ve got "modern-day" historical experience in. Most of you probably know my knowledge runs more to the mid-ancient historical.

However, while I&#39;d really enjoy jumping into this thread, I can&#39;t seem to find a coherent arguement. It all seems pretty confused. Perhaps we can start over?

But for Skweeky:

[noname12]

I&#39;m stumped, I just answered everything I could I showed the similarities, and bla bla, now you guys argue the implimentation of it.

[chalice]

Originally posted by MagicNakor@31 October 2003 - 23:16
I go to sleep, and look what happens.

The Soviet Union is one of the few areas that I&#39;ve got "modern-day" historical experience in. Most of you probably know my knowledge runs more to the mid-ancient historical.

However, while I&#39;d really enjoy jumping into this thread, I can&#39;t seem to find a coherent arguement. It all seems pretty confused. Perhaps we can start over?

But for Skweeky:

Well, thanks for that, MN. As ever, we&#39;re left wanting for your wisdom.

[noname12]

I hear by confiscate that picture for my own devious ways.

Meh actually never mind, Stalin&#39;s quotes are pretty nice.