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    Quote Originally Posted by clocker View Post
    Not from me, you wouldn't.

    Shouldn't that be "a charge" instead of "an charge"?
    Being a screaming racist is no excuse for poor grammar.
    Ah, once in nine years...

    So, wow, hey, you got a cavity search, eh?

    I always made it a point to eat chile when I was sure I was gonna get pulled over - I figured I could get any cop in the fucking world off the subject with a few well-timed freeps.

    Okay, back to the race thing again - you (white boy) were inhumanely treated by another white (primarily, right? I mean, correct me if I am wrong), so, under what sub-heading of racism were you violated?

    Or would you say it was merely an exercise of power, with no racial component whatsoever?

    In other words, would you have been treated any differently at the Polish border as an Italian, an Irishman, a Spaniard, or an American?

    Did you ever cross a border uneventfully?

    Indulge me, please.
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    Sure, most of our border crossings were uneventful.
    I never pegged any of our less pleasant encounters as racial, more casual bureaucratic fucking than anything else.
    Try explaining to a bored Italian border guard why you have two 55 gallon drums of special blend fuel in your trailer (also full of bikes/tools, etc.) without any of the paperwork they consider necessary.
    (The drums of gas were the items that were confiscated. We picked them up as we left Italy 5 days later.
    Apparently, actually having the gas in our possession wasn't the problem, not having the "proper" waybills was.)

    Look, I said initially that my experience was not directly comparable and I totally understand why we would have been hassled...a big rig full of longhairs and exotic equipment, it's bait for a border guard...I get it.
    What is semi-comparable is being in a situation where we were subject to the petty and random whims of whoever felt like exercising their authority at the time.

    If I was subject to the same random power plays while simply walking around my hometown I'd be pissed off instead of exasperated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clocker View Post
    Sure, most of our border crossings were uneventful.
    I never pegged any of our less pleasant encounters as racial, more casual bureaucratic fucking than anything else.
    Try explaining to a bored Italian border guard why you have two 55 gallon drums of special blend fuel in your trailer (also full of bikes/tools, etc.) without any of the paperwork they consider necessary.
    (The drums of gas were the items that were confiscated. We picked them up as we left Italy 5 days later.
    Apparently, actually having the gas in our possession wasn't the problem, not having the "proper" waybills was.)

    Look, I said initially that my experience was not directly comparable and I totally understand why we would have been hassled...a big rig full of longhairs and exotic equipment, it's bait for a border guard...I get it.
    What is semi-comparable is being in a situation where we were subject to the petty and random whims of whoever felt like exercising their authority at the time.

    IF I was subject to the same random power plays while simply walking around my hometown I'd be pissed off instead of exasperated.


    That's a big if.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by clocker View Post
    Sure, most of our border crossings were uneventful.
    I never pegged any of our less pleasant encounters as racial, more casual bureaucratic fucking than anything else.
    Try explaining to a bored Italian border guard why you have two 55 gallon drums of special blend fuel in your trailer (also full of bikes/tools, etc.) without any of the paperwork they consider necessary.
    (The drums of gas were the items that were confiscated. We picked them up as we left Italy 5 days later.
    Apparently, actually having the gas in our possession wasn't the problem, not having the "proper" waybills was.)

    Look, I said initially that my experience was not directly comparable and I totally understand why we would have been hassled...a big rig full of longhairs and exotic equipment, it's bait for a border guard...I get it.
    What is semi-comparable is being in a situation where we were subject to the petty and random whims of whoever felt like exercising their authority at the time.

    IF I was subject to the same random power plays while simply walking around my hometown I'd be pissed off instead of exasperated.
    That's a big if.
    Well, i HAVE. But you seem to think its trivial since its the group you wanna be biased against.

    I always made it a point to eat chile when I was sure I was gonna get pulled over - I figured I could get any cop in the fucking world off the subject with a few well-timed freeps.
    what kind of moron thinks of such a stupid and idiotic answer to a real problem? Someone who cant answer because their real answer would probably be "well, did you look like a mexican?"
    Last edited by l33tpirata13; 07-06-2010 at 12:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post

    That's a big if.
    I am again struck by your laid back, "Let's wait and see" response to this issue compared to your hyper agitated "Health care reform is going to drive me out of business!" stance.

    So much for "compassionate conservatives".
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    Quote Originally Posted by l33tpirata13 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by clocker View Post
    I am again struck by your laid back, "Let's wait and see" response to this issue compared to your hyper agitated "Health care reform is going to drive me out of business!" stance.

    So much for "compassionate conservatives".
    isnt it obvious ,by now, that he's a racist hypocrite?
    Nothing makes em froth at the mouth more that the words Mexican, Black, and Obama.

    I'm a racist because you say so?

    Heaven forbid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by l33tpirata13 View Post

    isnt it obvious ,by now, that he's a racist hypocrite?
    Nothing makes em froth at the mouth more that the words Mexican, Black, and Obama.

    I'm a racist because you say so?

    Heaven forbid.
    no youre a racist because YOU said so. You shared you views didnt you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by l33tpirata13 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post


    I'm a racist because you say so?

    Heaven forbid.
    no youre a racist because YOU said so. You shared you views didnt you?
    Is there a shred of logic in this ^ , someone tell me, and by that I mean someone other than pirate-person.
    "Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."

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    Anyone?

    Anyone at all?
    "Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by l33tpirata13 View Post
    The case is United States of America v. State of Arizona et al; Case No. 10-cv-1413 in U.S. District Court for the District of Arizona
    ill guess we'll see what happens. I have no idea what will transpire. but, i tell you what wont change........J2kaca will still be complacent to bigotry.
    So this would make you, what...non-complacent?
    "Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."

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