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    Quote Originally Posted by 999969999 View Post
    How did whites have such huge families in the 1800s without all the wonderful government services you libs seem to think we can't survive without?
    In the 1800s America- and most of the world- was an agrarian economy.
    You had more kids because you needed them as laborers on the farm.
    Infant mortality was much higher, so you had more kids to increase your odds.
    Education wasn't an issue because you trained them to work the fields, which doesn't require much in the way of formal education.

    As the old song goes, "How do you keep them down on the farm once they've seen gay Paree?"
    Returning from WW1, millions of your corn fed rural children looked at their rural roots and said "No fucking way", moved to the city and ultimately morphed into the "elites" you now despise.

    The inane scenario you envision closely mirrors the recent history of China and look how that's working out.
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  2. The Drawing Room   -   #162
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    Quote Originally Posted by 999969999 View Post
    And it's simple math. If the white majority starts to have more children, it will remain in the majority.
    The math has already been done for you. Its been done over and over and over. You either choose to accept it, and be enlightened, Or, you can ignore it and make up your own facts. If the white majority isnt threatened why does it have its panties all in a bunch?
    It assumes that whites won't start having big families again. I think that is about to change. And your dreams of Hispanic majority will come crashing down.

    But you know what? Even assuming whites will stop being in the majority in 2050, it simply means there will be no majority. Whites will still be the largest population for a very long time to come. The rest will be divided up between Hispanics, Blacks, Asians, and others. Remember, this is not South Africa. They were never in the majority in South Africa, nor anywhere close to even half the population. You cannot expect the same thing that happened in South Africa to happen here. The numbers simply don't support it.

    Now, since you refused to answer this question last time, here it is again...

    Why are all of the Hispanic majority countries from Mexico all the way down to Chile such horrible places to live?

    Why are so many of them trying to come to the United States?

    If you succeed in making the U.S. a Hispanic majority country, what will you have accomplished? It will become just as horrible as Mexico with a horrible standard of living.

    So in reality, you should be glad that you are fortunate enough to live in a wonderful white majority country, and you should do everything you can to keep it that way so your standard of living doesn't fall back to that of Mexico's standard of living.
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  3. The Drawing Room   -   #163
    Quote Originally Posted by clocker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 999969999 View Post
    How did whites have such huge families in the 1800s without all the wonderful government services you libs seem to think we can't survive without?
    In the 1800s America- and most of the world- was an agrarian economy.
    You had more kids because you needed them as laborers on the farm.
    Infant mortality was much higher, so you had more kids to increase your odds.
    Education wasn't an issue because you trained them to work the fields, which doesn't require much in the way of formal education.

    As the old song goes, "How do you keep them down on the farm once they've seen gay Paree?"
    Returning from WW1, millions of your corn fed rural children looked at their rural roots and said "No fucking way", moved to the city and ultimately morphed into the "elites" you now despise.

    The inane scenario you envision closely mirrors the recent history of China and look how that's working out.
    I'm not following you. How does China come into this picture. Please explain.
    Who can take your money and give it to someone else? The Government Can! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO2eh...layer_embedded

  4. The Drawing Room   -   #164
    And since you conveniently failed to respond to this last time, I'm bringing it back again...

    "Mexico's immigration laws are codified in what's called Ley General de Población, or General Law on Population. You can read the Spanish-language version HERE, or a Google English version HERE.

    Some examples, as presented by Redstate. Referenced articles are from Ley General de Población (English version):

    -- Foreigners are admitted into Mexico ”according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress.” (Article 32)

    -- Immigration officials must “ensure” that “immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance” and for their dependents. (Article 34)

    -- Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets “the equilibrium of the national demographics,” when foreigners are deemed detrimental to “economic or national interests,” when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when “they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy.” (Article 37)

    -- The Secretary of Governance may “suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest.” (Article 38)


    If it is okay for Mexico to have such immigration laws, which are far more draconian than ours, why is it so evil for a supposedly sovereign nation to control our own borders?
    Who can take your money and give it to someone else? The Government Can! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO2eh...layer_embedded

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    Quote Originally Posted by 999969999 View Post
    Why are all of the Hispanic majority countries from Mexico all the way down to Chile such horrible places to live?
    My brother lives in Mexico and I can assure you it's not a "horrible place to live".

    Quote Originally Posted by 999969999 View Post
    I'm not following you. How does China come into this picture. Please explain.
    China, until recently the agrarian paradise you envision, is now facing a massive migration of people from the rural to the urban centers.
    Nobody- not even the Chinese peasant (and make no mistake...what you're describing will simply result in a massive "white" peasant class)- wants to spend their lives endlessly toiling in the fields.

    However, make things simple...ignore the Chinese reference and address the other questions I posed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 999969999 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by l33tpirata13 View Post

    The math has already been done for you. Its been done over and over and over. You either choose to accept it, and be enlightened, Or, you can ignore it and make up your own facts. If the white majority isnt threatened why does it have its panties all in a bunch?
    It assumes that whites won't start having big families again. I think that is about to change. And your dreams of Hispanic majority will come crashing down.

    But you know what? Even assuming whites will stop being in the majority in 2050, it simply means there will be no majority. Whites will still be the largest population for a very long time to come. The rest will be divided up between Hispanics, Blacks, Asians, and others. Remember, this is not South Africa. They were never in the majority in South Africa, nor anywhere close to even half the population. You cannot expect the same thing that happened in South Africa to happen here. The numbers simply don't support it.

    Now, since you refused to answer this question last time, here it is again...

    Why are all of the Hispanic majority countries from Mexico all the way down to Chile such horrible places to live?

    Why are so many of them trying to come to the United States?

    If you succeed in making the U.S. a Hispanic majority country, what will you have accomplished? It will become just as horrible as Mexico with a horrible standard of living.

    So in reality, you should be glad that you are fortunate enough to live in a wonderful white majority country, and you should do everything you can to keep it that way so your standard of living doesn't fall back to that of Mexico's standard of living.
    Again, i thank my stars that you're in a small little NOBODY in a town full of NOTHING. You and your idiotic, pathetic, delusional views will die with you in the middle of NOWHERE!!!!! Just like that other mongoloid from NM.

    You want to assume Whites will start to reproduce in large numbers again? Fine. If thats the case, them homely-looking white girls will be reproducing with us. You're fuckt literally.
    Last edited by l33tpirata13; 08-11-2010 at 03:23 PM.

  7. The Drawing Room   -   #167
    Quote Originally Posted by clocker View Post
    My brother lives in Mexico and I can assure you it's not a "horrible place to live".
    Then why are millions of Mexicans so desperate to get across the border that they risk dying in the desert, and getting killed by "coyotes" (human smugglers)?

    There is something wrong with Hispanic culture that makes all their countries suck so much that they are all desperate to leave their homelands and come to the United States.
    Last edited by 999969999; 08-11-2010 at 04:54 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by l33tpirata13 View Post
    Again, i thank my stars that you're in a small little NOBODY in a town full of NOTHING. You and your idiotic, pathetic, delusional views will die with you in the middle of NOWHERE!!!!! Just like that other mongoloid from NM.

    You want to assume Whites will start to reproduce in large numbers again? Fine. If thats the case, them homely-looking white girls will be reproducing with us. You're fuckt literally.
    1. This.
    2. I lived in Southern Idaho for a couple of years. There were lots of Mormons and Mexicans. The Mormon girls married the white Mormons, but had no problem "hanging out" with the Mexican boys outside of school. A "good Mormon girl" has to practice, right?

    Guys like this 9's fella make me wonder how the technology of the internet even arrived at their door.
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  9. The Drawing Room   -   #169
    Quote Originally Posted by l33tpirata13 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 999969999 View Post

    It assumes that whites won't start having big families again. I think that is about to change. And your dreams of Hispanic majority will come crashing down.

    But you know what? Even assuming whites will stop being in the majority in 2050, it simply means there will be no majority. Whites will still be the largest population for a very long time to come. The rest will be divided up between Hispanics, Blacks, Asians, and others. Remember, this is not South Africa. They were never in the majority in South Africa, nor anywhere close to even half the population. You cannot expect the same thing that happened in South Africa to happen here. The numbers simply don't support it.

    Now, since you refused to answer this question last time, here it is again...

    Why are all of the Hispanic majority countries from Mexico all the way down to Chile such horrible places to live?

    Why are so many of them trying to come to the United States?

    If you succeed in making the U.S. a Hispanic majority country, what will you have accomplished? It will become just as horrible as Mexico with a horrible standard of living.

    So in reality, you should be glad that you are fortunate enough to live in a wonderful white majority country, and you should do everything you can to keep it that way so your standard of living doesn't fall back to that of Mexico's standard of living.
    Again, i thank my stars that you're in a small little NOBODY in a town full of NOTHING. You and your idiotic, pathetic, delusional views will die with you in the middle of NOWHERE!!!!! Just like that other mongoloid from NM.

    You want to assume Whites will start to reproduce in large numbers again? Fine. If thats the case, them homely-looking white girls will be reproducing with us. You're fuckt literally.
    I'm glad I don't live in Phoenix where it is hot as hell half the year, and where there is so much crime thanks to the wonderfully progressive Hispanic culture of Mexico taking over central Phoenix.

    In Eagar, I rarely see anyone who is not white. It's very nice here.

    You fail to address the fact that whites are in the majority now, and if they start to have more children, they will stay in the majority.

    Even if we fall below 51%, we will still be at 49% or so, and Hispanics will still not be anywhere close to that number. There will still be more of us than you. For a long, long time. You will not live long enough to see that change.

    And oh, I feel so sorry for you, because, there will simply be no majority in that case, and the scary, evil whitey will still be the largest population in the United States for a long, long time.

    And 2050 is still 40 years away. "There's many a slip 'twixt a cup and a lip." Something terrible may happen along the way that will not go well for you and your people. I think you know what I am talking about, but I dare not mention it on a public forum like this.

    Well, since you dipped to that level of insulting, my girlfriend is blonde. I'd rather date a beautiful blonde than a Hispanic any day.
    Who can take your money and give it to someone else? The Government Can! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO2eh...layer_embedded

  10. The Drawing Room   -   #170
    And since you conveniently failed to respond to this last time, I'm bringing it back again...

    "Mexico's immigration laws are codified in what's called Ley General de Población, or General Law on Population. You can read the Spanish-language version HERE, or a Google English version HERE.

    Some examples, as presented by Redstate. Referenced articles are from Ley General de Población (English version):

    -- Foreigners are admitted into Mexico ”according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress.” (Article 32)

    -- Immigration officials must “ensure” that “immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance” and for their dependents. (Article 34)

    -- Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets “the equilibrium of the national demographics,” when foreigners are deemed detrimental to “economic or national interests,” when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when “they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy.” (Article 37)

    -- The Secretary of Governance may “suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest.” (Article 38)


    If it is okay for Mexico to have such immigration laws, which are far more draconian than ours, why is it so evil for a supposedly sovereign nation to control our own borders?
    Who can take your money and give it to someone else? The Government Can! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO2eh...layer_embedded

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