Hacking

[abu_has_the_power]

low life hackers that try to access ur pc is bad. but hackers like deviance and flt and those guys are awesome. withouth them, where would be get games like halo and max payne 2?

[nikita69]

this is what one hacker believes (the original meaning, intention, definition of hacking/hacker) and i agree with her (yes she )

Hacking is the act of penetrating computer systems to gain knowledge about the system and how it works.

Hacking is illegal because we demand free access to ALL data, and we get it. This pisses people off and we are outcasted from society, and in order to stay out of prison, we must keep our status of being a hacker/phreaker a secret.  We can't discuss our findings with anyone but other members of the hacking/phreaking community for fear of being punished.  We are punished for wanting to learn. Why is the government spending huge amounts of time and money to arrest hackers when there are other much more dangerous people out there. It is the murderers, rapists, terrorists, kidnappers, and burglers who should be punished for what they have done, not hackers.  We do NOT pose a threat to anyone. We are NOT out to hurt people or there computers. I admit that there are some people out there who call themselves hackers and who deliberately damage computers. But these people are criminals, NOT hackers. I don't care what the government says, we are NOT criminals. We are NOT trying to alter or damage any system. This is widely misunderstood. Maybe one day people will believe us when we say that all we want is to learn.

There are only two ways to get rid of hackers and phreakers. One is to get rid of computers and telephones, in which case we would find other means of getting what we want.(Like that is really going to happen.) The other way is to give us what we want, which is free access to ALL information. Until one of those two things happen, we are not going anywhere.

[DWk]

Originally posted by exeus@1 November 2003 - 15:10
i think some ppl in here need to go and learn what the term hacker means... if there were no hackers there would be no internet for you even to be looking at this!

EDIT: missing a word...lol

exactly.... every1 go read up will ya

DWk

[fr600]

I use to hack my own computer. So is that illegal???

[Neo 721]

I suppose anyone could look at it from a hackers point of view, but the governt ment or police ect dont see it that way because most of the info that they seek is often classified infomation, maybee they want to find out how the launch system on Nucular missle works doesnt make it right though.

[4play]

hacker- someone who takes an interest in a specific subject. a hacker will tear things apart be it software/hardware or security and then try to understand how it works to improve it.

cracker - somebody that breaks into your system to steal sensetive information, for fun or for personal gain.

hacker = good
cracker != good

of course there are many types of hackers as well like white,grey and black hat's

[Neo 721]

actually the term cracker can also mean somone that wishes to damge systems also.

[paul_smith]

hackers which do gud things am ok
but hackers who do bad things....

[Neo 721]

In my books proper hacking is people who hack into large government databases and banks ect. The concept of people hacking into each others PC is a rather new concept.

[nikita69]

@ALL - to add to what has been discussed already, if u remember at the beginning of the this year, M$ was and still is pursuing the teachings of hacking to college students. Some have said then that it was a political stunt by M$ against IBM (seperate issue), yet I have some contacts who are at prominant universities that have been taught how to hack, funded by M$. One of them created his own company and has M$ as his primary customer.

some links
http://www.computerworld.com/securitytopic...1,79579,00.html
http://www.icefortress.com/guests/modules....ca6cdb71439273e
http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/03/21/...eachhack_1.html