Best newsgroups provider for someone new to usenet..

[mesaman]

...some people (like myself) who set up block-account fill-servers probably never noticed any problem.

And I didn't notice any problem downloading Newzbin Report #5670754 from Giganews with Blocknews filling in 11 MB.

[saminca]

Giganews is overpriced. Period. For the life of me I can't figure out why some here think that Astraweb is 2nd rate. Don't confuse low price with service rendered. Giganews retention rate is a bit redundant now that binsearch is 600+ days. Also use a VPN service when downloading torrents. ACEVPN is only 15 bucks a month and their servers in France are lightening fast and torrent friendly.

[Hypatia]

Wow, that's amazing.

Indeed. use logic, not the force, Luke,yeah

[zot]

...some people (like myself) who set up block-account fill-servers probably never noticed any problem.

And I didn't notice any problem downloading Newzbin Report #5670754 from Giganews with Blocknews filling in 11 MB.

Something I don't quite understand is the logic of using a block account fill-server with an expensive provider like Giganews. I would agree that using a secondary provider as a fillserver can make a big boost in completion rates on marginal usenet providers, such as the free usenet still provided by a few ISPs, or cheap (and unreliable) pay-providers. So combining any cheap low-completion server with a block account fill can yield close to 100% completion.

But one of the reasons that Giganews is twice the price of Astraweb is that they have a lot of additional storage redundancy, so (at least in theory) there is much less reason for a fillserver when using Giganews. (though that 11MB missing from Giganews seems a lot)

Or maybe I should say, when using a fill server like Blocknews, it would seem that there is much less reason to subscribe to a high-cost provider such as Giganews, rather than a low-cost one such as Astraweb. Or am I missing something here?

[mesaman]

For Newzbin report #5670754, Giganews was missing 11 MB because their DMCA takedown team removed 11 MB. Otherwise it would have been complete. I think Giganews follows the DMCA notices to the letter and removes all article message-ID's listed in the notice. I don't know why the agent or law firm representing the content owner doesn't include all of the article message-ID's for the whole post.

[Townsend]

usenext's the one I would suggest. Not the lowest of all prices, but I liked the software better than any other. It's very helpful especially for noobs

[c0ld]

usenext

haha, classic.

[zot]

Exactly. Cancel your membership, believe everything is OK, then two years later get harassed and threatened by a debt collector agency demanding 130 euro for service you never even used. No thanks.

[Townsend]

I signed up for this service two years ago and I'm still using it. Never had any problems. Always worked well.

[SonsOfLiberty]

I'm up to trying astraweb but do you know if supernews is any good?

Supernews is just a giganews company with reduced retention. It's not value for money when compared to astrawebs kleverig deal (but then, nothing is really).

Yeah the one thing everyone misses about those 2 companies (well same company ) and Newsdemoon, they are very prone to getting take down requests, any HBO show or Showtime show gets deleted the next day.