Did You Know There's An OpenSource Alternative Client?

[DasFox]

Azureus is open source as well.

Vuze might be open-soruce but one thing it does it intermingle with other proprietary applications which try to control and strip away people's computer rights!

Vuze is also not just a bittorrent client but more akin to a one size fits all multimedia and file sharing application.

This post is strictly about Open-Source Bittorrent ONLY clients and Vuze falls short in that category as a Bittorrent ONLY client.

[Polarbear]

Azureus is open source as well.

Vuze might be open-soruce but one thing it does it intermingle with other proprietary applications which try to control and strip away people's computer rights!

Vuze is also not just a bittorrent client but more akin to a one size fits all multimedia and file sharing application.

This post is strictly about Open-Source Bittorrent ONLY clients and Vuze falls short in that category as a Bittorrent ONLY client.

Vuze actually has hidden code in it that sends all your data to BREIN. That's how they managed to take down 384 torrent trackers in the last six month. Vuze is dangerous and you're right not to take it on your list.

[GCI]

Vuze might be open-soruce but one thing it does it intermingle with other proprietary applications which try to control and strip away people's computer rights!

Vuze is also not just a bittorrent client but more akin to a one size fits all multimedia and file sharing application.

This post is strictly about Open-Source Bittorrent ONLY clients and Vuze falls short in that category as a Bittorrent ONLY client.

Vuze actually has hidden code in it that sends all your data to BREIN. That's how they managed to take down 384 torrent trackers in the last six month. Vuze is dangerous and you're right not to take it on your list.

Seriously?

Got link?

[anon]

Seriously?

No - I think it's rather Polarbear's way of being tired of repeating the same.

But he's right - switch to the classic UI and Vuze is a very good BitTorrent client and nothing else. Meaning no search/entertainment crap.

[DasFox]

Seriously?

No - I think it's rather Polarbear's way of being tired of repeating the same.

But he's right - switch to the classic UI and Vuze is a very good BitTorrent client and nothing else. Meaning no search/entertainment crap.

Regardless of switching to the classic UI, you still have to download all the crap. If they gave users two different clients, one complete Vuze and the Classic UI, then I'd put up the Classic is all and then maybe not considering really what's at stake here!

It's not about installing Vuze then shutting off what you don't need it, it's about not even going there in the first place and just having a bittorrent ONLY client and ones that don't support the corporate pigs too!

And like I said, regardless Vuze is still sleeping with the enemy by having all these options linked into proprietary crap, regardless of turning everything off and using just the classic UI, you're still supporting them, which to me is bad! EVIL!

The dumbest thing about Vuze is on one side, go out and download your illegal torrents, then on the other side, play with all your illegal warez on the proprietary side. OH what a total crock of crap. If Vuze want's to say hey this is our way of slapping them in the face, well fine, I personally think it's also called sleeping with them when you invite them into your bed, meaning the application. To me that's total BS SOFTWARE for doing that! See because in the software world you don't do something like this in the open-source scene, hack scene, pirate scene or any other type of scene that's about freedom and sharing.

THINK about it for one SEC ok! So you're going to be a warez pirate make your own program, are you really going to have M$ in it and support them? HELL NO! You'll use a Windows box to do your hacking from but you're aren't going to support them in your pirated software! Do you get it now?

Vuze it's crap plain and simple for what they're supporting and any filesharing pirate worth anything knows it too and doesn't even play with something like this!

HERE READ THIS: (Here is a a bit of what I'm going on about!)
http://www.vuze.com/features/device

Drag and Drop to -----> iPAD

Now go READ this: (Also dig around defectivebydesign.org and check out more).
http://www.defectivebydesign.org/ipad

So here's our great software pirates Vuze supporting crap like Apple as an example, not to mention M$!

See regardless of what the intentions are, if you are really into this for filesharing and what it's really about then you don't even mention something like the iPad on your website and show any support for it and any other proprietary crap that tries to take away your rights or freedoms.

Proprietary is fine so long as you aren't trying to take control and take away and that is what companies like Apple and M$ do with a lot of their proprietary crap! This is the PROBLEM and why Vuze get's BIG THUMBS down for me.

Vuze are just wannabe pirates supporting the corporate pigs also attacking and stealing from you and throwing you in jail, oh GEE this isn't also related to the RIAA and MPAA? LMAO, what BS! And you telling me you can't see this? WOW talk about being blind to support something like VUZE!

By the way Polarbear, I'm not just posting this directly at you, or attacking you, this is just a general post for everyone, so don't take it personal!

THANKS

[Polarbear]

You're right about the Apple part. Apple tracks all filesharing traffic on their computers. Every movie on a Mac or an iPad not bought in the iTunes store will automatically be reported. It sends all information directly to Apple.

I once used Vuze on a Mac to download some porn. Apple reported the illegal downloads to my local authorities. They busted my house and took away my Mac. Apple's anti piracy hunters cost me 10,000€ which the porn company claimed.

Now I use Windows and uTorrent like everyone else. I have a Levono or something now. I feel much safer. And it looks much better than the Apple anti-piratebooks.

I totally agree with you. True pirates don't use Macs or buy iPads.

I hope Steve Jobs dies pretty soon. He's evil and could take down all trackers at once. He's also related to a chief forensic expert at BREIN who took down 193 of the 384 trackers in the last six months. I heard it's his cousin.

In a few hours Jobs is giving a press conference. He'll announce that Apple will work together with the CIA in the near future to enforce a stricter DRM system on Apple hardware.

[DasFox]

You're right about the Apple part. Apple tracks all filesharing traffic on their computers. Every movie on a Mac or an iPad not bought in the iTunes store will automatically be reported. It sends all information directly to Apple.

I once used Vuze on a Mac to download some porn. Apple reported the illegal downloads to my local authorities. They busted my house and took away my Mac. Apple's anti piracy hunters cost me 10,000€ which the porn company claimed.

Now I use Windows and uTorrent like everyone else. I have a Levono or something now. I feel much safer. And it looks much better than the Apple anti-piratebooks.

I totally agree with you. True pirates don't use Macs or buy iPads.

I hope Steve Jobs dies pretty soon. He's evil and could take down all trackers at once. He's also related to a chief forensic expert at BREIN who took down 193 of the 384 trackers in the last six months. I heard it's his cousin.

In a few hours Jobs is giving a press conference. He'll announce that Apple will work together with the CIA in the near future to enforce a stricter DRM system on Apple hardware.

No need for all the sarcasm, especially someone on a filesharing forum who I would of thought knew better and then someone from Europe too on top of it.

With sarcasm like this, you really show that you don't know what the proprietary world of computing has done.

Since you don't seem to understand anything going on here, can you in terms of ---> ADOBE FLASH?

Adobe flash another great in the world of proprietary that has monopolized the world of flash, maybe you don't realize either the downside here to FLASH too, it's basically the same as what I've been going on about.

[Cabalo]

Well, Vuze is open source. And the best, most complete and with the most features and plugins bittorrent client by a mile.
It fucking rocks. Is it noob friendly? I suppose not. All the possible tweaking and infinite options may scare some people away.
Not trying to look leet here, but Vuze is the client of choice for seasoned torrenters. Once you try it, you're not going back.

Takes a toll on the system? Bullshit. It takes up around 100-120mb RAM and nearly the same processing power as any other client around.

It is simultaneously the best existing client for Windows, Linux and Mac OS.

Just my 2 cents, I've used nearly all mainstream bt clients, and I can't live without Vuze.

[GCI]

Well, Vuze is open source. And the best, most complete and with the most features and plugins bittorrent client by a mile.
It fucking rocks. Is it noob friendly? I suppose not. All the possible tweaking and infinite options may scare some people away.
Not trying to look leet here, but Vuze is the client of choice for seasoned torrenters. Once you try it, you're not going back.

Takes a toll on the system? Bullshit. It takes up around 100-120mb RAM and nearly the same processing power as any other client around.

It is simultaneously the best existing client for Windows, Linux and Mac OS.

Just my 2 cents, I've used nearly all mainstream bt clients, and I can't live without Vuze.

I did get scared, although I remember liking its 3D representation of a peer-seed cloud (I think that was a plugin.) It even showed the data moving back and forth as little blocks

[anon]

Regardless of switching to the classic UI, you still have to download all the crap. If they gave users two different clients, one complete Vuze and the Classic UI, then I'd put up the Classic is all and then maybe not considering really what's at stake here!

The Vuze code in the JAR weights ~4MB, and doesn't even get loaded when you choose the classic UI. I don't see the problem.

It does take the developer team extra work to maintain two code branches (one with Vuze crap and another without it), though, and in the end it isn't even worth it.