Absolutely stoi, couldn't of said it better.
Absolutely stoi, couldn't of said it better.
Please do not randomly PM asking for invites as I have none to give out. Have a nice day.
Back to invite trading. I do not trade invites or anything like that because it is shady(scams,global bans,etc), and I made promises that I do not intend to break out of respect for certain people.
Last edited by pone44; 08-24-2010 at 08:18 PM.
From this you seem to have too little personality. You SHOULD always do what you believe suits best your needs/interests. Never act like a robot who's told by someone else to do a certain thing.
Some people obey the rules because they are simply obediant or really believe rules must be respected(cause they are the right thing to do). But there are also people who take a look at some rules and say some are crap and they also act in consequence.
@Stoi at some point you said something that traders don't get involved and they always stay lurking in darkness. I passed that time and I can tell you I was nothing like you described although I do suspect I might have been an exception from the rule.
@ca_aok if you have an original cd and it gets scratched, unlistenable the yes ofc you can download the same rip from a tracker. But don't tell me that a downloaded torrent isn't a loss from the ones that have the right to sell it on market.
I'll reply you like no one else
well if the person you traded with (i mean accounts more than invites, but it still happens with invite traders as well) was a new member, or didnt use the community much, then you came in and started to use it, then of course it would be hard to spot, but if the member was in good standing, had 400 torrents downloaded 100+ comments/forum posts/IRC whore, you come in on his account, and ask why you cant download (or any other noob question) or just write in a different way to the usual user, then it pretty easy, hence why most ppl that trade to get in, try to stay hidden in the background.
as for the 1 download = 1 loss of sales, what a load of rubbish, if i had to buy windows, i would use linux, I downloaded Maya with the Pixar addon a few years back, $18,000 of software at the time, I just done it to say i had a program on my pc that cost more than most peoples cars lol I did install it, mesed about for 2-3 hours, then never looked at it again, I would have never ever bought it in a million years, as there is just no way i could afford $18,000 for 1 program. But saying that, if my job was to use maya and the pixar addon, and i was on a good salery, then yes, I would have bought it.
and on the other hand, Kick Ass the movie, never seen a trailer, my son went to see it, came back said hmm it was ok, so i never really looked into it, I downloded it the other week, thought it was great, right up my street with the OTT fighting aka Hard Boiled, Itchi the Killer etc and bought it on Blu-Ray/DVD combo, but if i had never downloaded it, I would have never even thought to have bought it, ever. (well maybe in 4 years when it comes out on TV).
I am saying that I am not the type of person that gives makes a promise and doesn't follow through. What does that have to do with my personality and who are you to judge?
Thanks but you preaching to the choir.
I could give a sh8t about trading invites. I do not hate those who do! It is their choice.
Last edited by pone44; 08-24-2010 at 10:12 PM.
I think you all are glossing over one huge detail. Pone is a Micheal Bolton fan.![]()
Sorry for making one last offtopic post in this thread.
Yea thats exactly what I am saying.Instead of mixing moral principles,people should see rules as rules.Nothing more,nothing less.Originally Posted by stoi
I dint say that.Originally Posted by stoi
Having been around for a while, but just not too "involved" my view is this.
Trading invites is great- it means, I sell my xbox and I don't need BCG anymore, but I want waffles, so I trade with someone for waffles, cos he's just bought my xbox! Fantastic everyones happy, staff are happy that the account is still used, I;m happy cos I have somewhere to download music from!
it's like communism, it's a great idea, but doesn't work out so well.
3 problems-
1) I trade for a waffles invite, from blackcats, and get into waffles, and think I only need to seed for x amount of days, or while I can, and can download whatever I want, end up banned in 3 days, because I don't know how it works.
2) elitest site owners frowning upon trading because that means everyone can get into their "rare" site if they allow people to trade invites, therefore decreasing value.
and 3- the reason I don't trade. People are *****, they will lie, cheat and steal to get their own way, and not care what happens to you. if I trade a BCG acc for a waffles acc, cos I want to use it, for all I know, he could have it at one album is going to put me into a leecher status or the equilovent, and it's the last chance I have, so I get banned, lose the account and he's ****** off with my account, so I'm left with nothing, and BCG is going to get fucked over by that guy again!
If everyone was honest, there'd be no problem with trading.
(sorry for using BCG as an example stoi, I saw you and BCG was the first tat came to mind)
So it would be OK to break rules if everyone was honest .
Am I the only one that sees a flaw to that logic?
Last edited by IdolEyes787; 08-25-2010 at 08:15 PM.
Respect my lack of authority.
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