Is it really true that all ratio cheaters eventually get caught?

[BABBY]

ABYBEATS

very few people can understand me, the main reason is that, my post at first glance looks silly, childish and very basic, but if u have a closer look and if u think of those things which i want to convey then u will find that i was right, a small thing that incorporates everything.


I just want to tell that their is no need to put yourself into any hassle of cheating and keeping your mind stress about the fact that i will be caught one day and banned and may be global baned from this torrent world.

their are option to almost everything, why to waste time and hinder peace of mind for cheating.

just enjoy life.

[sez]

Of course not everyone gets caught, or people wouldn't still be trying it on private trackers. A huge number of them do get caught and banned, and the oh so lovely folks you mentioned in the OP have had several dupe accounts on various sites after being banned, but if that's how they choose to act there's not much you can do about it, it merely speaks to their character.

and there you go again with the big words,you refused to produce the scummeter so I'll just assume it doesn't exist.

character:the mental and moral qualities distinctive to an individual. • strength and originality in a person's nature.

I don't really know how to go into this without coming off as patronizing towards you but what the hell are you using this time to measure anon's character or anyone's for that matter(you did know what character means,right?)

It's the last thing you can deduce about a person on the internet,all you get are personas and facades,these change.Am not going to swear coz I know you gonna use that as an excuse to dodge my question again.

Here's how I look at anon anyways,we can't really know who he is as a person and if you take your torrents too seriously like ca_aok you end up substituting real life principles with tracker rules and use those to judge people.This is the tragedy that ca_aok is struggling with.

Now speaking from a rational person's perspective(real world here,forget about torrents for a while),anon comes off as a good person to me.True,he's been helpful in the forums here but looking carefully at what he does and why he does it,you can't help but see a charitable person.

He is smart as an individual and unlike some people who see torrenting as a means to an end,truth is he doesn't(you do know his mods are apart of torrenting,right?).He could easily be selling these mods for as much as $20 a piece or more but guy decides to give them out for free with lifetime updates.Now if you got a caged mind like the quoted individual you'd be thinking he did that to spite p2pg and BT staff in general but opening your mind a little wider,you get to see a self
less person who decided to use his knowledge not for profit but to aid a group of people who lacked...sad that somebody else is trying to make a profit out of his work.

Most of you saw mbm's thread about jacking his 'distant' neighbours wifi and saw how it ended.That extra bandwidth was a necessity and the final solution was to cheat the system.Now does that make him a scum?Does it even attest to his character?ca_aok?Has it altered your opinion on him?

[ca_aok]

Most of you saw mbm's thread about jacking his 'distant' neighbours wifi and saw how it ended.That extra bandwidth was a necessity and the final solution was to cheat the system.Now does that make him a scum?Does it even attest to his character?ca_aok?Has it altered your opinion on him?

Actually it did, as we've discussed among ourselves. And regarding your "scummeter", I'm not even sure what the hell you're asking me for as I never mentioned such a thing. When you run a tracker, putting your ass on the line if the authorities come knocking at the door, the last thing you want to see is people profiting off your hard work (sellers, traders), or people not giving back what they take, since this is the foundation of BT compared to DDL or direct P2P (cheaters). Is that the answer you're looking for?

It's ok that you lack any sense of respect or care for the people facilitating your filesharing, that's your choice to make. Re: anon's morality, you're not going to sway me here. We see one side of him here, I've seen another side of him elsewhere. He's great at what he does and a consummate professional, that doesn't mean he's a good person for what he does. Giving children a loaded gun when they don't know how it works and probably don't realize that they may end up shooting themselves in the foot with it shortly down the road is not a charitable action.

Edit: If you're desperate to continue this conversation, feel free to PM me rather than having us derail the thread. I doubt either of us will change our minds though, arguing on the internet is rather pointless.

[AdrianPhoto]

No, not ALL of them get caught

[anon]

Dude,you seriously need a better perspective of things,tbh all those three points you made are totally stupid.I dont even feel like quoting each of them and explaining it.Sorry if I sound like a troll but thats how I truly feel.

I wouldn't call BABBY's points stupid. That's not because I agree with them, however, but rather because I don't want to offend him (or anyone else here) by calling his point of view "stupid". We're all entitled to our opinion, after all.

I do recommend you read the link AbyBeats posted, though. I think I explained everything over there.

[kallieb]

The way I look at it, people who can't stand the hassle of seeding can bypass the whole torrent site route and just get their stuff through DDL. It is completely doable with limited loss of quality, variety ,speed and in the process there are no rules to worry about.

Why ratio-cheats need to create this whole system of complexity to snatch a few files they can otherwise get hassle-free from DDL is the most amusing part in all of this. Ratio-cheats enjoy the rush of just that: Cheating and getting away with it. It's like walking into wal-mart, palming something, breezing past store security and going.. woo-hoo Look at how good I am.

There are far way more interesting ways available in life to boost one's self-esteem or the 'life can be interesting' factor. Getting all caught up in the game of trying to beat a torrent sites stat's system is right up there with stealing condoms from wal-mart.

Totally lame.....

[7th]

I didn't take the time to read all this thread but in my point of view, those who try to keep an over buffered account with its seed boxes in any tracker are as bad as those who decide to cheat.

Well, actually I think I prefer cheaters... At least they leave me some room to seed =P
Btw, I have an account in a great tracker that I simply can't use (and I don't use) because it's impossible for me to survive there unless I "part-seed", but that's not worth the effort. Damn seed boxes when they're not wisely used!

ps.: I almost got banned from one of my favorite trackers for inviting a cheater (who promissed he woudn't cheat)... But that is easy to solve. Simply don't invite people to private trackers anymore! =/

[OlegL]

I took it, registered, and that account remains enabled to this day.

And you still cheat from time to time at what.cd?

[Cabalo]

I didn't take the time to read all this thread but in my point of view, those who try to keep an over buffered account with its seed boxes in any tracker are as bad as those who decide to cheat.

Well, actually I think I prefer cheaters... At least they leave me some room to seed =P
Btw, I have an account in a great tracker that I simply can't use (and I don't use) because it's impossible for me to survive there unless I "part-seed", but that's not worth the effort. Damn seed boxes when they're not wisely used!

ps.: I almost got banned from one of my favorite trackers for inviting a cheater (who promissed he woudn't cheat)... But that is easy to solve. Simply don't invite people to private trackers anymore! =/

If you invited him via FST, you can be helped.

You're probably talking about SCC. It's indeed true. Even when I used seedboxes, I hardly managed to reach decent ratios there, and with my home connection it's very rare the torrent I reach over 0.5

[7th]

If you invited him via FST, you can be helped.

You're probably talking about SCC. It's indeed true. Even when I used seedboxes, I hardly managed to reach decent ratios there, and with my home connection it's very rare the torrent I reach over 0.5

Thank you Cabalo, but nevermind... it was a long long time ago. =/
And I was talking about bitme.tv, but good to know about SCC too so I'll never try my head there =P