PTN is going bling bling!!??

[Burnsy]

Yes, it does happen on occasion that Scene Releases are upped to sites and when downloaded one of the rar files is corrupted... never happened to you? No?

Of course it happens. That's why I prefer unrared content. No rars, no corrupted rars. You said that you prefer rars because it makes it easier to replace corrupted rars. That doesn't make any sense at all. You prefer a method to replace an error when the method itself is the reason for the error.

OK, I'm assuming you've never had a problem with the actual download itself? Not the files on the release per se?

If I'm grabbing rar's I can identify which rar file(s) it was and grab them elsewhere... it may have been the original files, it may have been a problem with the download itself... either way I don't generally worry about it as I've better things to do, I just find another release, grab the replacement files and 999 times out of 1000 the problem is solved.

Much preferable to downloading a single unrar'd file, prob with the download and you have to grab the whole lot again... doesn;t happen a lot, very rarely in fact, I'll freely admit to that but it still happens.

You do it your way, I'll do it my way and we'll both be happy. Maybe I'm set in my ways, but I've always gone with rar'd files and never had any lasting problems... why fix it if it ain't broke?

You're not wrong, I'm not wrong... we'll never change each others minds. If you have an over whelming desire to be 'right' then you carry on if you feel like it

All I asked was why someone preferred unrar'd to rar'd as I thought they were on about the whole 'space' issue...

[Hombre]

gj PtN, i think the header is a lot of confusion. i like simple and minimal things, and the header is too much info.

[Quarterquack]

Burnsy, if you ever download a corrupted file, it's because the source was messed up; not the downloaded copy. The protocol alone checks for file fidelity more than you can imagine. If you have a problem, it's probably a corruption that happened during the transfer from the FTP to the site you're downloading the content from.

i like simple and minimal things

When was the last time you changed your signature, again?

[Burnsy]

Burnsy, if you ever download a corrupted file, it's because the source was messed up; not the downloaded copy. The protocol alone checks for file fidelity more than you can imagine. If you have a problem, it's probably a corruption that happened during the transfer from the FTP to the site you're downloading the content from.

That's fair comment, all I know is that in the past I've more than once downloaded a single file (avi or whatever) and it's either crashed or have had some other problems watching it (and yeah, this was a while ago from public trackers). I'll fully accept that it was probably a problem with the upload and not the download... the point I'm making is that I tend not to worry about it, and by using rar files it's a lot easier/quicker to replace... I do what I do now by stuff that's happened in the past. I used to think there was possibly probs with the download itself, I stand corrected if indeed that's impossible

I know that the protocol checks and checks time and time again, although tbh, and not being a very 'techy' person I've never looked far into it at all, so will accept what you say as I've nothing to offer on that... One thing I will say though is that uploading 20-30 torrents a day to some trackers makes it impossible to unrar them all to check them before uploading them (while trying to also have a life too ). It won't be the first time I've had to search for a 'damaged' rar file to fix a download, so it's a fair balance for me

[tutipute]

So is this just yet another site making some minor changes to TBDev, installing a new 'hip' theme for the header, tables and buttons, adding some ugly javascripts for hovering, and calling it 'v2'?

We are glad that you appreciate it!

gj PtN, i think the header is a lot of confusion. i like simple and minimal things, and the header is too much info.

Well, i personally respect you're opinion, especially since its coming with some someone with that avatar.

..I'd feel safer knowing there was some way to archive the pieces of the db necessary to keep the system together.

Don't worry, you can sleep tight if this is your concern. The stuff that matter is indexed locally.

We understand how important unpacked releases can be for a relatively small site like ours, and its long term effects in improving torrent retention. We are working on improving things to the best of our abilities.

//Peace

+1

I personally don't give much about whether scene releases being un-rared and believe that un-rared torrents are more practical to keep since they don't require the double space when they are still seeded (Assuming of course that you are not streaming them directly out of the rar files...)

[Burnsy]

gj PtN, i think the header is a lot of confusion. i like simple and minimal things, and the header is too much info.

Well, i personally respect you're opinion, especially since its coming with some someone with that avatar.

Ad-Block it mate... I think everyone else has

And back on topic anyway... new layout looks good, might take a bit of getting used to, but nice job all the same

[tutipute]

Well, i personally respect you're opinion, especially since its coming with some someone with that avatar.

Ad-Block it mate... I think everyone else has

And back on topic anyway... new layout looks good, might take a bit of getting used to, but nice job all the same

Thanks! Don't get me wrong, we will appreciate any constructive criticism, anonymous or not.

[Quarterquack]

By the way tuti, while you're here: Good job. Everything is better than I expected to be when I started hearing about v2.

[brento]

Ad-Block it mate... I think everyone else has

And back on topic anyway... new layout looks good, might take a bit of getting used to, but nice job all the same

Thanks! Don't get me wrong, we will appreciate any constructive criticism, anonymous or not.

It's very nice, I just wish leaving a torrent comment was less complicated.

[Polarbear]

Burnsy:

Rar files don't get corrupted during the bittorrent transfer. Bittorrent uses a SHA-1 hash function. It's a secure algorithm. That means you always get exactly the files that the uploader had on his HD when he created the torrent file. Sometimes the scene messed up something and then you have a corrupted rar archive. When you download this file you will of course end up with a corrupted rar archive as well because it was there in the first place. You can't go to another tracker and replace it, because the other tracker has the identical damaged file that you downloaded. Usually a rarfix is released by the group later. That is what you can download to fix the problem. So when rar archives are messed up you even have to download more.

I understand now that you think the archives get corrupted during BT transfer. Again, that's not possible. When you download something via Bittorrent and it's corrupted it was either corrupted in the first place or because of faulty RAM, a faulty HD or some other hardware problems on your side. That can happen with any file, rared or not. All you have to do is download the corrupted part again. The client will do a hash check and only redownload the missing chunks, not the whole movie.

When the uploader unpacks the rar files before he uploads a movie, he can easily see that something is wrong. When he doesn't unrar it he can't. Rar errors happen during the archiving process, not during the bittorrent transfer.

Of course unraring takes time. A 0-day tracker wants fast pretimes, that's why especially automated uploads don't unrar the releases. PTN is a movie tracker, that's why they should give the users an extra service and release the files unrared.

I hope you understand now that you can't replace something that was uploaded corrupted.


I heard the "download one rar piece instead of the whole movie again when corrupted" so many times. I had rar discussions for years and this argument is brought up again and again. It's simply wrong.