Well, It's Official.

[Rat Faced]

If you dont want to hear the answers..dont ask the questions.




In answer to your question re: Jewish Media.... that is yahoo.

Where is the media coverage?

I didnt hear about this at all, until you posted it...although in all fairness I've been pre-occupied with my mates death/Cremation the last few days and havent looked for news..

Or maybe they are reacting to the Israeli comments:

"We are not only sad but outraged. Not at European citizens, but at those who are responsible for forming public opinion," the embassy added.

Forming public opinion?

You mean there is a spin to the news?

Well i never...

:-"

[chinook_apache]

lol there we go the illegal zionist state is the most threat for global peace. immediatly the zionist foreign minister called it 'propaganda' and 'anti-semtic'. see that for once the world has said somthing about the state and they dismiss it as 'anti semetic'. one person who posted a post here is rite...the jewish media must have turned down the percentage. LOL whats the ppl coming to, cant we say something to the zionist state, so anything we say against them is propaganda and anti semetic.

[MediaSlayer]

Originally posted by Rat Faced@4 November 2003 - 21:32
If you dont want to hear the answers..dont ask the questions.

@ratfaced-What question? Please explain.

@chinook apache-those same methods(attack a group of people and then accuse them of complaining too much) can be used for great evil, f.y.i. It has happened many times throughout history, go to the library and read about it.

[Rat Faced]

Just general Mediaslayer..........they werent the answers the EU leadership wanted either

[MediaSlayer]

@Ratfaced-I didn't realize this

Just general Mediaslayer

was a proper sentence in English, perhaps I need to brush up on my grammar.
I'm guessing you were making a general statement about the EU's asking of the question in the first place, but then this

If you dont want to hear the answers..dont ask the questions.

still doesn't make sense because you would be hard pressed to convince me Jews pushed to have that question asked. It looks like a politically motivated stunt, perpetrated by brussels, to further isolate Israel and mold/reinforce public opinion to suit their needs.

[internet.news]

both israel people and palestinians - although they are just humans, it is sad to see
a new attack every weel - must stop!

ok, I think there are I am sure some israel people are living in peace
together with palestininans are good friends, sure...

~nice dreams...

[MediaSlayer]

Wimmern, das eine positive Anzeige war

[Billy_Dean]

Originally posted by Mediaslayer
It looks like a politically motivated stunt, perpetrated by brussels, to further isolate Israel and mold/reinforce public opinion to suit their needs.

Everthing is a plot with you lot, you just don't understand that the majority of the world doesn't like Israel, or what they are doing. How many UN resolutions has Israel ignored now? They act like they have a special place in the world, and everyone else can get fucked. The Israeli state is a terrorist state, that's how the world sees them. Trust you to muddy the waters with your "media plot" smokescreen.

"We are not only sad but outraged. Not at European citizens, but at those who are responsible for forming public opinion," the embassy added.

What an outrageous statement that was!! Anyone who says something anti-Israeli must have had their minds manipulated.

Stop murdering Palestinians; withdraw from the occupied territories; have the same respect for UN resolutions that you demand from others; then ask the world how they feel.

[MediaSlayer]

I see your tone has changed a little bit since your moderation, I respect that.

I disagree with your views.

Trust you to muddy the waters with your "media plot" smokescreen.

Was I ever preaching about how "Jews control the media"? No, it was chinook and others. I am only defending my people and asking for some eyewitness accounts of mistreatment at the hands of Jews. Not a single person could even present one. However, many have responded with propaganda as you have. Just because your TV tells you something doesn't make it true. If the Israelis are notorious human rights violators wouldn't some of those violations involve people on this forum? I have met many Israelis and didn't notice anything out of the ordinary about them. If they are murderers, wouldn't they murder outside their homeland as well? Israelis living in Europe, for example. Are they killing Europeans left and right? I have alot of contact with Europeans, especially people from the UK, in my everyday life. Many of them are anti-Israeli. When pressed about why, though, they normally can't give a reason without mentioning Israel or Palastine(which, as noted in the 1st post, isn't a country). That's pretty scary. If America went on a french canadian killing spree because of stuff France was doing, wouldn't that be just as bad? Wouldn't there be an outcry? Use common sense. If the Israelis you meet in everyday life don't seem like murderers, but you are told "they really are" you might want to work it out for yourself, rather than trusting the judgement of someone else. Who is brainwashing who?

[Rat Faced]

But you are using the same arguments that we use re: Pallestinians.

ie: They arent all murderers/terrorists.

As such, we have to agree.

And, you would have to agree with us.

Which of the following do you think is justified?

In 1948 thousands of Palestinians took refuge or were driven from their homes during the war that followed the proclamation of the state of Israel. Many settled in Lebanon.... Israel refuses to acknowledge their Right of Return, despite UN resolutions to that effect.

In 1968, Israeli commandos blew up 13 airliners at Beirut airport Israel said the attack on Beirut airport was a reprisal for an attack in Athens by Palestinian guerrillas. ...... since when have the Palestinians had Airliners?

In March 1978, in retaliation for the killing of more than 30 bus riders in a raid by sea-borne guerrillas near Tel Aviv, Israel attacked PLO positions in south Lebanon and occupied a 10 km (six mile)-wide strip north of the Lebanese border. About 1,500 people were killed, mostly Lebanese and Palestinian civilians. Some of the Israeli forces pulled out, but not before handing over the area

Lebanon's civil war: U.N. Security Council resolution 425 ordered the Israelis to leave. They refused. The United Nations set up UNIFIL, a 5,000-strong peacekeeping force to help restore Lebanese state authority down to the border. Israeli troops did not let it reach the border.

In 1981, PLO guerrillas rained Katyusha rockets into the border strip. Israel launched air raids on Beirut in retaliation, killing hundreds of of civilians. ..........remember, the Border Strip wasnt Israel, and shouldnt have been occupied by Israeli troops, however they bombed a city in reprisal.

In July 1982, Israel invaded Lebanon with the declared aim of routing Palestinian guerrillas. It cited as justification an attack that seriously wounded its ambassador in London. Israeli Defence Minister Ariel Sharon promised his army would stop after 40 km (25 miles) but it encircled Beirut, 40 km further north. After bombardments, PLO fighters agreed to leave the city. About 20,000 people were killed, mostly Palestinian and Lebanese civilians.

In September 1982, Israeli forces stormed west Beirut after pro-Israeli Christian leader Bashir Gemayel, who days earlier had been elected president, was assassinated. Israeli troops ringing the Palestinian refugee camps of Sabra and Shatila allowed revenge-seeking Christian militiamen into the shantytowns. More than 1500 of refugees were slaughtered and Israel was widely condemned.

In 1985, Bruised by world outrage and hurt by mounting guerrilla attacks by Hizbullah guerrillas, Israel, under Prime Minister Shimon Peres, pulled most of its forces out of Lebanon and set up a 15 km (nine mile) wide occupation zone . But its continued presence stirred the resentment of local south Lebanese. Israel then faced a more relentless resistance, Hizbullah.

In February 1992, Israeli helicopter gunships rocketed the car of Hizbollah leader Sheikh Abbas Musawi, killing him, his wife and son. Rocket attacks into northern Israel followed, then Israeli forces stormed two villages north of the occupation zone.

In July 1993, Israel unleashed "Operation Accountability," of week-long air, artillery and naval blitz in which 130 people, mostly Lebanese civilians, died and 300,000 fled their homes. This was in response to killing seven Israeli soldiers by Hizbullah resistance.

In April 11, 1996, Israel unleashed "Operation Grapes of Wrath" in which more than 170 people, mostly women and children were killed, including 102 refugees shelled at a U.N. base in the south.



Quite frankly, Israel is its own worst enemy.

I Find no surprise in the findings of the survey, except in that most of the above is not given the media coverage that a bomb in Israel is.....