The Bible

[Mad Cat]

Its the basis of a Religion. But a biased one.

Who can say that no greedy priest didn't slip a few lines in to trick someone, and this tainted copy might have spread. Bad translations may have occured, making the bible seem something it isn't. There is no 'real' bible, in the sense that there isn't one base copy.

[Inevitable]

There is a God you guys are just confused. I'm a Christian and from my personal experiences I realized that there really is a God. If there wasn't we wouldn't be here.

[Neo 721]

Most of the ideals have long gone.

EDIT: sorry double post

[Will_518]

Of course there is a base copy, a few years back they found the original book of Isiah, and it's only minorly different from the ones we see today. And all the translations try to be as accurate as possible. And it'sso popular no greedy priest can slip in lines.

neo, what do you mean? Is the Bible no longer relevant?

[Mad Cat]

I think it was more of a way of controlling people back in history. There was no real police, and apart from vigilantes, what was to stop rape, stealing, murder etc.

People were intimidated by it, and therefore order was made. It worked too.

The ideals are still here. Its the base of most modern day "morals."

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by Will_518@4 November 2003 - 20:07
Of course there is a base copy, a few years back they found the original book of Isiah, and it's only minorly different from the ones we see today. And all the translations try to be as accurate as possible. And it'sso popular no greedy priest can slip in lines.

neo, what do you mean? Is the Bible no longer relevant?

I'm sorry but Isiah didn't write the Old and New testaments.

Who can say that is the original?

EDIT: With the greedy priests part, I meant priests in the past. You know when the average man couldn't read? Nowadays there is a standard for the bible, I agree.

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by Will_518@4 November 2003 - 19:13
What does that have to do with anything?! (and while on the matter, of course they do, Christians anywhere, anyone are all equal, as brothers and sisters)

Stay on the topic, or get out.

Right I'm getting confused from all these posts going at the same time but... here goes.

In response to the quoted ^

Christians everywhere are equal, but what does this have to do with anything? Unless you are a racist or something you should think we are all equal. Which we are.


EDIT: Arrgh, sorry. This is probably spamming on my part. New posts keep popping up. Sorry.

EDIT AGAIN: Don't try forcing your beliefs on people. Telling someone to get out because they have an opinion is bad. Freedom of speech, and all.

[Neo 721]

Thats true but consider how many copies have sold overthe years, there will have been considerable changes in order to attempt to make it appeal to the younger generations.

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by Neo 721@4 November 2003 - 20:14
Thats true but consider how many copies have sold overthe years, there will have been considerable changes in order to attempt to make it appeal to the younger generations.

Not only this, I am talking about changes throughout history. Back in the Middle Ages, religion was what kept a lot of things in order. Think of all the power the Church had. If by changing lines in a bible they could get more power, who is stopping them?
If you were against it back then, you would probably be executed for blasphemy or something.

[Guillaume]

Originally posted by Neo 721@4 November 2003 - 21:14
Thats true but consider how many copies have sold overthe years, there will have been considerable changes in order to attempt to make it appeal to the younger generations.

There is no 'real' bible, in the sense that there isn't one base copy.

The bible hasn't changed since the work of St Jerome in the fourth century... Well, at least the Bible according to the Roman Church...
I you want the unchanged Old Testament read the jewish Torah. The New Testament is more of a problem, since Jesus didn't write it Himself, but the Apostles did some 30 years after...

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