Matrix Revolutions!

[Mik3ll]

Yeah, I just read in the newspaper while looking for times for Revolutions, and it said that the Wachoski brothers proved that it is possible to go from a stunning movie to a cheesy movie.


But im gonna leave to see it in about 15 min.

[restricted]

I saw the movie today and i loved it. I too had many questions but thanks to something a read on another board my questions were answered. All i can say is people don't understand what lies beneeth the cool effects and battle scenes and miss what the Matrix is truly about . Hopefully after reading this you will enjoy the trilogy more .

I apologize if my email does not follow the rules of this forum, but I felt I could offer you a very clear explanation of the Matrix series in light of reading your reviews of the Matrix Revolutions. The bottom line is people don't understand it. So this is a crash course for anyone who wants answers. Real one's, not some fanboys idea of what it's about. Please note, SPOILERS ARE ALL THROUGH THIS REVIEW.

Here we go with the basics.

Zion is real! The Matrix is not.

The Matrix was designed to provide a mental stimulus for the human bodies connected to the machines as a source of power. This is the sixth version of the Matrix. There have been multiple versions of the Matrix because of a flaw in the program (kinda of like Windows). That flaw is giving individuals the ability to choose.

The first Matrix was designed as a perfect uptopia (see pt. I - Smith explains it to Morpheus; pt. II - The Architect explains it again) but humans did not accept it as real so they just kept waking up. It was redesigned to reflect our civilization at it's last stage before it was taken over by the machines (the year 1999).

The Architect's problem with this new design (the anomoly)of the Matrix is that it require individuals to think freely, i.e. choice. It was the Oracle that suggested he redesign the Matrix in this way. But since humans have choices, so must the programs sent to watch over them, i.e. The Agents, thus bringing us the problem that is Mr. Smith. In Reloaded, The Architect continues to speak of the anomoly he is unable to get rid of, which is why at some point, he feels the only solution is to destroy the Matrix and those who are aware of it (the people of Zion) and start from scratch again.

The Oracle says it clearly in Revolutions. Mr. Smith is the result of the anomoly trying to balance itself. Mr. Smith began to think freely (see part I where he is freaking out while interrogating Morpheous) and the result was a negative one. Realize this, he is a similar program to the One so he is far more dangerous than a normal individual who makes bad decisions. Mr. Smith's virus like behavior happened in EVERY VERSION OF THE MATRIX. The result would always lead to the same thing -- a system crash if they didn't quickly reboot the system. The same knee jerk reaction you have when you realize someone has sent you a virus.

The One program was created to solve this problem. But each version of the One ultimately failed. Neo is different, in Reloaded he choose the door that led to Trinity, not the door that RESETS the program. Note: The Architect even noticed that Neo's experience in the Matrix was different than all the rest, realizing he was the first of them to fall in love.

Onto Revolutions:

Neo's choice has changed everything. The system is still threatened by Smith's behavior, so the Oracle makes a new choice; one she has never done before because no version of the One has ever chosen the difficult path as opposed to easy one of just resetting the system. She allows herself to become merged with Smith in the HOPE that she'll be able to help Neo when the time is right.

Neo makes another unique choice. He goes to the machines and asks for PEACE as opposed to simply destroying the system by going through the opposite door as all other versions of the One did. It was a simple as that to save Zion. Machines don't need very long to process that this may be a better idea than just constantly resetting the system.

At the end, Smith says to Neo the movies tagline - "Everything that has a beginning has an end," as the Oracle is speaking to Neo through Smith. Neo realizes it all along, the only way to end this is to sacrifice himself. The Oracle noted that Neo and the Source (the computer mainframe, the Architect they're all one and the same so don't get confused) are connected which is why he can control machines outside the Matrix. He uses this connection to his advantage. He becomes a Mr. Smith and since all the Smith's are connected, the Source now has a lock on Smith and simply deletes him. Pretty simple huh?

For those that like to dig deeper, than note the biblical references throughout the series. Heck, the French Man (Merovigchian) is the Devil, just read the elevator button Morpheous presses when he goes to see him for the second time. The Architect represents God - i.e. the creator of the world and its destroyer whenever things don't go as he wants. He even has you to chose a select group of people to restart Zion again sort of like Noah's Ark. Neo is Jesus, the one who realizes that peace and love is the answer, not war. And the Oracle represents the Holy Spirit - the conciousness that resides in all of us. It's a deep trilogy if you PAY ATTENTION.

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thnx for the quote restricted

[quiksilver_aus]

B) wow, that cleared up a lot of stuff for me

[Mik3ll]

I saw it, but what is the little girl suppose to be? At the end she said she made the sky colorful for neo.

[TheDave]

i watched it today and its almost as good as the first. a lot of stuff made sense but it still doesnt seem over, even though it is

[mojo2185]

Overall, I was looking for some more closure to the series. I was also looking for some more of the 'matrix' in the Matrix movie... meaning there was more footage of them in the real world than in the matrix. I'm still left wondering if there's a matrix in a matrix (why can Neo see in gold?). Can someone explain this, or has someone explained this?

One question: Anyone bother staying to the end of the credits? Is there anything at the end of the credits? Probably not, but I'm just wondering.

[TheDave]

Originally posted by mojo2185@9 November 2003 - 01:38
Overall, I was looking for some more closure to the series.  I was also looking for some more of the 'matrix' in the Matrix movie... meaning there was more footage of them in the real world than in the matrix.  I'm still left wondering if there's a matrix in a matrix (why can Neo see in gold?).  Can someone explain this, or has someone explained this?

One question:  Anyone bother staying to the end of the credits?  Is there anything at the end of the credits?  Probably not, but I'm just wondering.

i think that might have something to do with the oracle. and also i think thats the only possible ending without ending the world

oh yeah and i spent alot of time looking for subliminal messages after a freind told me that neo is the sixth "one" because he lives at apartment 101 which is six in binari. all i noticed is the word god on the fridge a blurry oracle before it zooms in on neo and the fact that credits didnt go by to rage against the machine

[SniperInTheShadows]

Finished watching this about 30 minutes ago and I have to say I thought it kicked ass. I didn't want this installment to be like the 2nd (i.e. full of rambling that didn't really make much sense to my simple mind lol), I wanted it to be a simple action film based around the war, and was very happy that they ended it with an action movie rather than something more along the lines of the 2nd :-)

Everyone who hated the film, soz to hear that :-( I get the feeling you were expecting something deeper from it.

The trilogy seemed to follow these lines, IMO -
1st Movie - Mixture of action and explanation about what the Matrix is.
2nd Movie - More on the past of the Matrix, and Neo's role. (Less action)
3rd Movie - Deciding the future of the Matrix, and the outcome of the war. (More action)

- Seem's to me that the What-sa-ma-call-it-brothers got the balance pretty balanced overall.

Thank's to Restricted for that quote, there were some thing's that I didn't fully understand still but the quote actually make's sense for a change (compared to some i've read on the forum about various film's lol) and helped me understand the idea's behind it better :-)

Also, to possibly answer Mik3ll's question - After reading Restricted's post I believe that some of the other people who've posted in this thread are right about her being the next One, or something like the One but not the One?, so-to-speak.

Anyway, awesome film with awesome fight scene's in it and not much in the way of thinking needed (just the way I like film's lol) :-)

Sniper.

[Mik3ll]

Originally posted by SniperInTheShadows@9 November 2003 - 02:09
Also, to possibly answer Mik3ll's question - After reading Restricted's post I believe that some of the other people who've posted in this thread are right about her being the next One, or something like the One but not the One?, so-to-speak.

Thats what my dad said, so I think that she might be the next One also.



BTW, I think the movie kicked ass, but the newspaper called it cheesy.
And you know how the people that made it are called the Wachoski brothers, I heard one of the brothers is getting a sex change, I wonder what they would call them selfs next.