Why don't music sites like what/waffles offer upload credit to donors?

[n00bz0r]

Seedbox doesn't guarantee a decent ratio either, unless you still UL stuff/ there is a FL/ You RSS 100% FLACs like the lame OVH Hit squad.

[Quarterquack]

I'd also assume that there's a legal angle to it. Allowing $$ > gigs wouldn't be the most stellar thing to boast about when the site is targeted and taken down and they're headed to court. (This is one reason I love the What mods, they're reasonable and understanding, and expect this to happen in the future. Most staffers/members think this will go on forever; then again, it's the curse of people being on their first FS protocol.)

[anon]

You RSS 100% FLACs like the lame OVH Hit squad.

That's what I meant with my first post in this thread

Get a seedbox, autosnatch every 2010 FLAC that hits the tracker and you'll buffer up in no time.

[soulreaper]

I'd also assume that there's a legal angle to it. Allowing $$ > gigs wouldn't be the most stellar thing to boast about when the site is targeted and taken down and they're headed to court. (This is one reason I love the What mods, they're reasonable and understanding, and expect this to happen in the future. Most staffers/members think this will go on forever; then again, it's the curse of people being on their first FS protocol.)

Every torrent site faces legal threat, nothing new there. However 'file retention' is probably why what/waffles dont offer gigs to donors.

[Quarterquack]

The charges are raised considerably if profit from piracy was proven to have occurred. This can be in multiple forms such as gigs for donations, proven donation scams/schemes etc.

[Thelen]

If the site doesn't have extremely tight rules and above 1 ratio, then ultimately there will be terrible retention, just as you see at what.cd and waffles even though they have so many torrents.

The only solution is to force people to hold onto the torrents for months at least, only being able to stop seeding it based on certain criteria (ie if hit 2.0 for the torrent, AND global ratio is >1.5 for the torrent AND you personally are above 1.5 ratio, THEN it will let you stop seeding). That will mean there will ALWAYS be people seeding unless they have extremely good reasons not to (ie, if you fail to announce for 24 hours it will not warn you), and those who fail to do it get a point. Too many points, and it increases the seeding rules (ie, 3.0 for the torrent), until you suddenly will just get banned.

TBH a paid site is a much better system, it is MUCH easier to just keep the files on a seedbox, but the problem with that is all the legal issues, hence why it probably doesn't happen.

[anon]

If the site doesn't have extremely tight rules and above 1 ratio, then ultimately there will be terrible retention, just as you see at what.cd and waffles even though they have so many torrents.

Can you give an example of this?

[elbuitre]

I don't think they have a terrible retention, that's an exageration, they have tons of really old torrents still going; For more obscure stuff though, retention is very lacking unfortunately but it's really because almost no one grabs it and eventually the OP leaves.

[soulreaper]

Would've been nice to get some gigs for 5$ !