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    Finally this movie is making its way to the theatres...

    http://coolit-themovie.com/videos


    Take that Al Gore!
    For once I agree with you. Global warming is happening. It has been going on for thousands of years, otherwise we would still be in the ice age. We wont stop it, but we could help by not using it as a tip heap. See there! Just proves that I have an open mind and think before I speak(sometimes ).
    And for once, I agree with you, too.
    Who can take your money and give it to someone else? The Government Can! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO2eh...layer_embedded

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    Quote Originally Posted by devilsadvocate View Post
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    So, him saying that his nomination is the point the sea levels went down....
    When did he say it? Because what you "quoted" doesn't say that.
    After he was confirmed as the Democrat nominee for presidency he stated:

    "I face this challenge with profound humility, and knowledge of my own limitations. But I also face it with limitless faith in the capacity of the American people… I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal… This was the moment – this was the time – when we came together to remake this great nation

    Seems to me that he is saying that because he was confirmed as the Democrat nominee this will happen. Would he have said that if Billary had won the nomination?

    I am sorry but coming from this man, I actually think he believes he has this power. He apparently has lost touch with reality, I mean he even states the democrats lost their majority do to "miscommunication" not people being opposed to his policies.
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    Take that, Clocky and Lucifer (devilsadvocate) !
    Who can take your money and give it to someone else? The Government Can! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO2eh...layer_embedded

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavyMetalParkingLot View Post

    After he was confirmed as the Democrat nominee for presidency he stated:

    this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal

    Seems to me that he is saying that because he was confirmed as the Democrat nominee this will happen.
    That's just your opinion and you are entitled to it. This however is a different charge from your initial statement of what Obama claimed he could achieve.
    What you have interpreted those words into what you think he said and what he actually said are two different things.

    Pay attention, because rewording statements is why people think AL Gore (I'm using him as the example because he was part of the OP's thread for some reason) claimed he invented the internet.


    Perhaps you mean something different to what you actually said, but I only have your exact words to go on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 999969999 View Post
    Take that, Clocky and Lucifer (devilsadvocate) !
    Living off the sweat of others again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by devilsadvocate View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HeavyMetalParkingLot View Post

    After he was confirmed as the Democrat nominee for presidency he stated:

    this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal

    Seems to me that he is saying that because he was confirmed as the Democrat nominee this will happen.
    That's just your opinion and you are entitled to it. This however is a different charge from your initial statement of what Obama claimed he could achieve.
    I reworded nothing at all. Please show me where I did. There is video of him saying this.
    What you have interpreted those words into what you think he said and what he actually said are two different things.

    Pay attention, because rewording statements is why people think AL Gore (I'm using him as the example because he was part of the OP's thread for some reason) claimed he invented the internet.


    Perhaps you mean something different to what you actually said, but I only have your exact words to go on.
    Please show where I reworded it. There is video to back up what I quoted.

    Maybe this will clear up what I am trying to say. He just accepted the nomination. He says we will look back and see that THIS was the moment the sea levels began to lower. He is saying that his nomination is the cause of the sea levels lowering. Not a whole lot to misunderstand.

    Anyways that is my take on it. Right or wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavyMetalParkingLot View Post

    Please show where I reworded it. There is video to back up what I quoted.
    1. (missing text) America, this is our moment. This is our time. Our time to turn the page on the policies of the past. Our time to bring new energy and new ideas to the challenges we face. Our time to offer a new direction for the country we love.
    The journey will be difficult. The road will be long. I face this challenge with profound humility, and knowledge of my own limitations. But I also face it with limitless faith in the capacity of the American people. Because if we (WE) are willing to work for it, and fight for it, and believe in it, then I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on earth. This was the moment—this was the time—when we came together to remake this great nation so that it may always reflect our very best selves and our highest ideals. Thank you, God bless you, and may God bless the United States of America.



    2. You changed "this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow" into "he can lower the sea levels" slowing the amount of acceleration and reducing speed are not the same thing.
    Maybe this will clear up what I am trying to say. He just accepted the nomination. He says we will look back and see that THIS was the moment the sea levels began to lower. He is saying that his nomination is the cause of the sea levels lowering. Not a whole lot to misunderstand.

    Anyways that is my take on it. Right or wrong.
    He never claimed to be Canute. He was talking about challenges that we ALL have to WORK for if we want to address them.

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1
    Last edited by devilsadvocate; 11-09-2010 at 02:29 AM.

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    Again you accuse me of rewording the quote. It is exactly as he said. In fact what you highlighted is the same as I highlighted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavyMetalParkingLot View Post
    Again you accuse me of rewording the quote. It is exactly as he said. In fact what you highlighted is the same as I highlighted.
    No. You "quoted" with a sentence deleted, removing the part where he said if "WE work/fight/believe in.." leaving only the "I". In doing so you changed the implication from WE can, to HE can

    Now when you put the "quote" up you did correctly use the words "the rise of the oceans began to slow", but when you stated what he said you reworded it

    Quote Originally Posted by HeavyMetalParkingLot View Post

    Well, according to Obama he can lower sea levels and heal the planet, so....
    Quote Originally Posted by HeavyMetalParkingLot View Post
    So, him saying that his nomination is the point the sea levels went down....
    When Churchill said "Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duties, and so bear ourselves that if the British Empire and its Commonwealth last for a thousand years, men will still say, "This was their finest hour." " Was he talking about a specific 60 minutes or a general span in history?
    Last edited by devilsadvocate; 11-09-2010 at 01:06 PM.

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    Give it up DA, HMPL was predisposed to dislike Obama and will parse (i.e., misread) anything he says for ammunition to fortify his preconception.

    The eight year Bush administration must have been absolute hell for him.
    After all, we had a President who claims that God told him to run and Jesus advised him on the war.
    So, in essence, the most powerful man in the world was taking advice from imaginary beings.
    HMPL must have been livid for nearly a decade.
    "I am the one who knocks."- Heisenberg

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