What, do you think, makes a good member of a private tracker different from a bad...

[whatcdfan]

i have no words, i can just tell u to go back and this very thread from beginning and put all that advised to u into practice

[Waddafocky]

In the words of IdolEyez787:

Well hung

[ScottK]

In the words of IdolEyez787:

Well hung

she bang, she bang
she boom, she boom

[bijoy]

Those aren't based on postcount, they're given if you're News or Newsgroups Moderator.

then someone just lied to me

you wanna be orange?

just like you & iPlay

its an honour to have u here with us sirreally i love the way u post

Why are you so sure about the word sir ?? She can be maa'm too.

[Humbucker]

A good user is one who can easily join another tracker by proving that he doesn't need that new tracker(Just like banks will lend you money when you can prove you don't need it)....

[gamesover]

A good user is one who can easily join another tracker by proving that he doesn't need that new tracker(Just like banks will lend you money when you can prove you don't need it)....

Yeah I always find it funny when I see people making fun of any high level tracker request and telling the OP all the reasons why they don't need that tracker, especially because I almost always recognize those who are making those type of replies as members of at least some of those trackers themselves. If you look way back through their post history you'll find a request thread they made that they conveniently have long since forgotten about or replies in any kind of giveaways where those special invites were given out (usually if the staff of said high level trackers start an official recruitment thread its more respectable to beg there).

There's only a few ways you join a tracker - by starting a request thread and opening yourself up to ridicule, by replying in a giveaway but the rarity of the tracker will determine the rarity of seeing a giveaway, or getting your online buddies to invite you. That last one is usually a give and take relationship, you invite them somewhere and they pay back the favor in time or vice-versa. The odd time some generous member will offer you an invite out of the blue; it's just that those random strokes of luck don't happen often and for members who are relatively anonymous, meaning they don't spam up forums and IRC channels, they rarely if ever happen.

Just as much as you can say nobody really needs a tracker, by the same token you can say nobody doesn't really not need a tracker. This is more true for specialty trackers, as there are just too many generic 0day trackers these days that only a handful of them really stand out as being invaluable.

The real bad members are the ones who beg for invites to trackers they never intend to use much or just use as trading commodity.

[ca_aok]

Yeah I always find it funny when I see people making fun of any high level tracker request and telling the OP all the reasons why they don't need that tracker, especially because I almost always recognize those who are making those type of replies as members of at least some of those trackers themselves. If you look way back through their post history you'll find a request thread they made that they conveniently have long since forgotten about or replies in any kind of giveaways where those special invites were given out (usually if the staff of said high level trackers start an official recruitment thread its more respectable to beg there).

Ever stop to consider that it's precisely because we're members there that we can tell you the reasons you don't need it? For most of us, including myself, we bought into the hype when we started torrenting. Once you actually join said "1337" sites you realize that it's all pointless and is just an account that could've gone to some new torrenter without any sources for material. Any "high level" 0-day tracker can easily be replaced by SCC, or whatever the best ratioless tracker is these days (PTM/GFT?). Most of the exclusive content sites are better in a way but there's still only a very specific subset of people who need them, and those people have a way of finding their way there naturally. You don't need to be a member of E**** to download FLAC, there's plenty of FLAC at What/Waffles. You don't need to be a member of TT to download trance, there's plenty at TranceRoute. In my personal experience, the only hard to join tracker that offered a significant improvement to my ability to find quality content was HDBits.

There's only a few ways you join a tracker - by starting a request thread and opening yourself up to ridicule, by replying in a giveaway but the rarity of the tracker will determine the rarity of seeing a giveaway, or getting your online buddies to invite you. That last one is usually a give and take relationship, you invite them somewhere and they pay back the favor in time or vice-versa. The odd time some generous member will offer you an invite out of the blue; it's just that those random strokes of luck don't happen often and for members who are relatively anonymous, meaning they don't spam up forums and IRC channels, they rarely if ever happen.

I disagree. There's the oft overlooked method of "open signups and unlimited giveaway threads". There are also IRC interviews and application forms in several places.

Opening a request opens people to ridicule here because the requesters generally have either dubious reasons or a dubious past. I've seen plenty of people come and go here, and the cynic in me has seen plenty of jackasses that sign up a new account to make a request, only to eventually be linked to trading history down the road. When the forum openly allows proxied browsing, you can never tell for sure. I'd be comfortable inviting (most of) the regulars here to a tracker, but the regulars are precisely the people who don't need said trackers. And sure, a random stroke of luck doesn't happen if you don't participate in a community, but I'm never going to PM some random dude out of the blue and be like "hey, here's an invite for you". The give and take thing is BS. When I invite people somewhere I expect to receive nothing in return. At the end of the day, I treat invites with their original purpose: to be distributed to friends, or at least people I interact with. Not some random dude with an easily faked ratio test or profile screenshot in exchange for rep points.

Just as much as you can say nobody really needs a tracker, by the same token you can say nobody doesn't really not need a tracker. This is more true for specialty trackers, as there are just too many generic 0day trackers these days that only a handful of them really stand out as being invaluable.

The real bad members are the ones who beg for invites to trackers they never intend to use much or just use as trading commodity.

Actually you can. What people know of the "rare" trackers is what they've learned from the reviews and hype. It's a lot easier to tell you it's BS if you're already a member there. Most of the people I see here requesting something like, say, TranceTraffic, barely even listen to edm. What/Waffles would probably have enough mainstream edm to last them a lifetime. The people I know who make good use of that place are DJs that mix together samples from obscure artists or want the latest pre-release track from some no-name group that isn't popular enough to leak to a site like What.

It seems to be a common misconception that these sites are somehow better contentwise than their larger counterparts. Fewer members = fewer torrents. As such, when there's better availability for content in general elsewhere, you're looking for a specific reason they'd like to join... whether they seem like they'd be a good "fit" for the community. Maybe in the case of a site like Pedro's or E they really have a thing for full album artwork scans at 600dpi or anal tagging and filenames. But just saying "I've heard they're the best FLAC trackers ever" doesn't do much. What has 200K FLAC torrents, Demonoid and rutracker have far more than that too (though for those you'll need to learn how to read EAC logs).

tl;dr, don't make sweeping assumptions about a concept you don't understand.

[Waddafocky]

ca_aok,

Really insightful post. Usually walls of text mean that the poster is going to put up a bunch of bullshit he pulled out of his ass, but you and a few other members at FST have done the opposite.

It's true - you only really want it until you have it. It's like the inverse relationship of "You don't realize what you have until it's gone." Your happiness at getting said trackers peaks, plateaus, and usually falls back down to when you didn't have it. Actually, the excitement level of having the tracker may be higher when you didn't have it than when you had it. It's for this reason that I'd like invite/account giveaways to be legal. Seriously, does knowing someone online ensure that they'll be a good user of a site? Not really. I have a few accounts I'd like to give away, because I have absolutely no use for them, got them during open signups, and would like to open another wanna-have's eyes. But alas.

As for proof of how not all guys get ridiculed with high level requests:
https://filesharingtalk.com/threads/427592-Pedros

I'd also like to add a point to the main discussion. You'll see many so-called "good" members of private trackers come and go, with ridiculous high ratios / 1:1 ratios depending on your standpoint of what's a good user. But take those same users, give them the public torrent sites, and you will immediately see who share for the sake of sharing, and who share because it enlarges their e-penis. I think most "average" users of BT turn out to be good users, with their flailing posts of "thank u uploader, i will seed back." These guys have no intricate understanding of the mechanisms of the BT world, but with their limited knowledge of "seeding is good" turn out to do more good than the average "good" private tracker member. As the saying goes, Character is doing the right thing when nobody's looking.

[Intr4ns1t]

^^^^^^^^^^gud yooser.

[pakito]

scene trackers? good user=good ratio