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    AZ representative shot.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...-public-event/

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    One child reported dead.
    Last edited by devilsadvocate; 01-08-2011 at 09:06 PM.
    When I was a kid I was told "We do these things not because they're easy, but because they're hard"

    Now all I hear is " I won't do anything unless there's something in it for me"

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    Don't you mean, "WTF is wrong with THAT person" ?

    Not "THESE" people?

    Who are you referring to by "THESE" people?

    This was the action of a mentally ill person.

    He acted alone.

    No one made him do anything.

    To blame anyone else for the actions of an individual-- a crazy individual-- is ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 999969999 View Post
    To blame anyone else for the actions of an individual-- a crazy individual-- is ridiculous.
    How did an obviously "crazy" person get a hold of a semi-automatic assault weapon?
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    I read this awhile back.. It's still in my head. I mean, wow.. 6down. He must be really crazy trained for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 999969999 View Post
    Don't you mean, "WTF is wrong with THAT person" ?

    Not "THESE" people?

    Who are you referring to by "THESE" people?

    This was the action of a mentally ill person.

    He acted alone.

    No one made him do anything.

    To blame anyone else for the actions of an individual-- a crazy individual-- is ridiculous.
    There have been many threats sent to lawmakers, there has been attacks on offices, there has even been an anthrax attack. This incident may just be one person, he may not be connected to any party, group , cause or religion, but it isn't alone. Even if it was just random it's hardly unique. So yes THESE PEOPLE.

    I drive down Elm st. often. I was a still kid in the 60s. I always hoped each generation would be more civil. Lately it seems violence is the preferred choice of making disagreement known.
    When I was a kid I was told "We do these things not because they're easy, but because they're hard"

    Now all I hear is " I won't do anything unless there's something in it for me"

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    By your logic, Jodie Foster should have been held responsible for the shooting of Reagan.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hinckley,_Jr.

    It was Hinckley's fault, not Foster's.

    He was a crazy individual who did an insane act.
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    I don't quite follow. All the other stuff ie the anthrax, the other attacks, and the threats, aren't those acts by crazy people holding the same or similar opinions?

    Or is this special because people got killed? Is the other stuff done by a better class of crazy with less wrong in the head?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 999969999 View Post
    By your logic, Jodie Foster should have been held responsible for the shooting of Reagan.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hinckley,_Jr.

    It was Hinckley's fault, not Foster's.

    He was a crazy individual who did an insane act.
    What the hell are you talking about?
    When I was a kid I was told "We do these things not because they're easy, but because they're hard"

    Now all I hear is " I won't do anything unless there's something in it for me"

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    Quote Originally Posted by 999969999 View Post

    He was a crazy individual who did an insane act.
    Aided and abetted by the NRA and all the "defenders of the 2nd Amendment" who believe that gun ownership should be completely unfettered.
    Also enabled by Arizona Governor Brewer who made your state one of three that don't even require a permit for concealed carry of weapons.

    Reading the Denver Post website this morning, I was struck by the juxtaposition of the Giffords story with that of a local story about the shooting of three people (one dead) by a sixteen year old.
    So, within 24 hours we have an obviously disturbed person (who legally- apparently- purchased a weapon) and a sixteen year old who also managed to obtain a handgun...all due to our insanely lax gun control laws.

    So much for the "well regulated militia".
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    Quote Originally Posted by clocker View Post
    Aided and abetted by the NRA and all the "defenders of the 2nd Amendment" who believe that gun ownership should be completely unfettered.
    Also enabled by Arizona Governor Brewer who made your state one of three that don't even require a permit for concealed carry of weapons.

    Reading the Denver Post website this morning, I was struck by the juxtaposition of the Giffords story with that of a local story about the shooting of three people (one dead) by a sixteen year old.
    So, within 24 hours we have an obviously disturbed person (who legally- apparently- purchased a weapon) and a sixteen year old who also managed to obtain a handgun...all due to our insanely lax gun control laws.

    So much for the "well regulated militia".
    While I'm a gun rights person myself, I do agree that we have a very low bar of safety, competence, training and enforcement. But gun laws, or lack of, are unlikely the reason WHY this occurred.

    Despite 9's apparent inside knowledge, we only have speculation so far as to any possible reasons or influences.
    When I was a kid I was told "We do these things not because they're easy, but because they're hard"

    Now all I hear is " I won't do anything unless there's something in it for me"

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